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    Hmm, one particular area for end game. Would be open world. There are a lot more FFXIV players per server than FFXI had (naturally less MMO players at the time, FFXI had good numbers for it's time). You have that massive amount of players who engage in one zone, that wouldn't be conflicting at all or cause a lot of drama.

    It isn't to discredit the idea of open world content, but it needs to make sense in the structure the game has built already. Like have Peiteskin treasure maps have a small chance of giving you an item that pops a more powerful NM in the open world and kill that to have it drop decent items/gear/tokens. Having a sky/sea like area causes more trouble than any good that would come from it. When you come up with an idea, you have to think about how it affects other content, server structure, and game fundamentals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    Your whole post is invalid because of XI.
    FFXI had a lot less players, especially in end game in comparison to FFXIV. Getting to 75 was a thing not many casual players of FFXI achieved till long down the road. In it's prime you saw 4-5 endgame LS's at most in Sky/Sea at a time. FFXIV works to get you to end game, meaning there would be much more lv.50's all gathering in one area and fighting each other to have room or claim mobs in an open world area, which causes conflict which I can tell you as a Sky/Sea raider since their release to 2010, no one liked dealing with the things you had to endure in there. I rather it be instanced where my FPS won't dip and my group can work at their own pace.
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    Where did I say I wanted teleports removed? Never
    Please don't tell me I am saying something when nothing in my post dictated that
    I would just like the OP have a zone that didn't have safe havens every few meters, and that you had an entire area to farm, explore that wasn't connected to a fate
    It could have something to do with this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    Guess you don't know what open world content is then
    Dailies, teleport there, kill X, teleport out
    Treasure hunts, teleport there, dig, kill, teleport out
    Zodiac quest teleport there, join X fate , hope for the 1/10000 chance of atma, teleport out
    What the poster was talking about were things that made Xi great, being able to just port there and port back out 10mins later doesn't cut it
    Where the only connecting issue between each of your points was "teleport out." It was not in any way unreasonable to suspect your entire complaint was with teleporting. If that was not your intended complaint I challenge you to user your words and explain it better.


    I think everyone in this thread needs to chill out. Some people just want to split hairs of there individual definition of open world content (despite the fact that open-world content seems pretty self defining), some people want to complain or defend the existing content, some people want to keep touting FFXI's EXPANSION content as some sort of golden lamb, and some people just want to watch the world burn. It doesn't really matter. The game is only 7 months old people. Clearly the last two patches added open world content, and in interviews Yoshi has expressed that he wants to add more open world content. To everyone complaining I say this. You are indeed getting what you want, but you need to have more patience. Rome was not built in a day, neither was FFXI, and neither will FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    It could have something to do with this post.



    Where the only connecting issue between each of your points was "teleport out." It was not in any way unreasonable to suspect your entire complaint was with teleporting. If that was not your intended complaint I challenge you to user your words and explain it better.
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    Nice of you to monitor my posts, however I still never said I want teleports removed, I was agreeing with the OP about a zone that isn't a safe haven every few metres, that around every corner could lurk danger that requires more than one person to kill.
    Doesn't mean I want teleports removed, so please keep your monitoring to yourself, last I checked the forums do not have a post police that aren't hired by the company
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    Guess you don't know what open world content is then
    Dailies, teleport there, kill X, teleport out
    Treasure hunts, teleport there, dig, kill, teleport out
    Zodiac quest teleport there, join X fate , hope for the 1/10000 chance of atma, teleport out
    What the poster was talking about were things that made Xi great, being able to just port there and port back out 10mins later doesn't cut it
    Problem is some of you will never be happy with what you get.

    If you are looking for HNM farming then I highly doubt this game is for you in the long term.

    As for making the open world a dangerous place, didn't Yoshi say from the start that they don't plan for that kind of content in the open world as he felt its unfair to force that on new and inexperienced players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    Nice of you to monitor my posts, however I still never said I want teleports removed, I was agreeing with the OP about a zone that isn't a safe haven every few metres, that around every corner could lurk danger that requires more than one person to kill.
    Doesn't mean I want teleports removed, so please keep your monitoring to yourself, last I checked the forums do not have a post police that aren't hired by the company
    I'm sorry but when did following a thread, that consists of a conversation, suddenly become monitoring? I saw you lash out because someone called you out, and I agreed with the person you lashed against. So I felt compelled to hop into the conversation and support what the other person said. So let's talk about it shall we? I asked you to elaborate on what you really meant. You said...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    however I still never said I want teleports removed, I was agreeing with the OP about a zone that isn't a safe haven every few metres, that around every corner could lurk danger that requires more than one person to kill.
    Please do explain to me how a reasonable person was supposed to gain that understanding when you originally said...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    Guess you don't know what open world content is then
    Dailies, teleport there, kill X, teleport out
    Treasure hunts, teleport there, dig, kill, teleport out
    Zodiac quest teleport there, join X fate , hope for the 1/10000 chance of atma, teleport out
    What the poster was talking about were things that made Xi great, being able to just port there and port back out 10mins later doesn't cut it
    Not once in your original statement do you say one think about the zone being safe, or having a safe haven every few meters, or danger lurking around any corners, or even that it takes one person to complete it all. Each point made consisted of [Content type], teleport in, kill x, teleport out]. Not one sentence about any danger or safe zones. So as I said Garolan. If you want us to understand you then please use your words. For you did seem to be completely complaining about teleports.
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    When people give up or have nothing to contribute to the conversation they use this line ( in some way).

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    not in the mood to listen to some white knight today since that's all your doing in other posts
    Don't call someone a White Knight or a Troll if you are using the words in the wrong way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    When people give up or have nothing to contribute to the conversation they use this line ( in some way).



    Don't call someone a White Knight or a Troll if you are using the words in the wrong way.
    It's called realising that when talking to fanboys their is no reasoning, and considering the one who keeps replying to my posts, all they ever do is respond to suggestion posts about how great the game is and they should be grateful.
    I've spent the last four days in game helping people and not getting anything i needed done, so to be called a bad player by someone who seems to spend their life's on the forum of course I'm going to call them a white knight for their total defence of the game.
    It's called freedom of speech might want to google have a nice day
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    This thread served its purpose for me already stop bumping it or a mod can lock it I don't care. I just wondered if there was any news or anything related to open world content and it was mentioned in a live letter that it will be released slowly over time. It's not what I wanted to hear but its some hope. Some is better than none. If the expansion they are working on has none then I'll prolly end up playing another game by then if I'm not already.

    It's been said by countless people. I'm not happy with the game in its current state and I will be more than happy to leave and find another one, its unfortunent but maybe the upcoming elder scrolls will be more suitable to my play style who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerolan View Post
    It's called freedom of speech might want to google have a nice day
    There are something that are best left unsaid though, or you could come a crossed as being "rude". You have the right to speak in the way that you want, but if people ( which also has freedom of speech) comes at you with a counter argument, then don't call them a white knight, as I could tell you're being a troll. I hate using white knight or troll because both words to me are considered rude.
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    Tolby their was talk about FCs being able to summon primals in the open world like the sky pops, not sure what stage their at though as that was back last year they talked about it, but it did seem promising
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