Atmas - Unfair for low level players

[Dhex]

Not sure if this has already been suggested, but there's a simple solution: Make it so Atma drops only happen if you're not level sync'd. And of course fix the apparently low drop rates.

Did you just derp a little too hard there?


Or did you not realize that a majority of the FATE(s) in the zones that have Atma are far below level 50 and make sync pretty much a requirement for... almost all of them?

(Or were you trolling? If so carry on!)

[Eekiki]

Most of zones have mid level FATEs. Some of them even have enough FATEs that don't require 50s to sync that a level 50 can grind exclusively on them.

Central Shroud has Sorrel Haven and Spriggan Dig.
North Shroud has the areas surrounding Fallgourd Float.
East Shroud has Sylphlands.
Western La Noscea has the area west of Camp Skull Valley.
Upper and Outer La Noscea are not low level zones.
Eastern Thanalan has everything east of Drybone (Burning Wall).
Southern Thanalan has Zahar'ak and Sagolii Desert.

That leaves Middle La Noscea, Lower La Noscea, Central Thanalan, Western Thanalan that are exclusively low level zones. That's 25%. Not a majority at all.

[Dhex]

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Telling others how to play is such a lovely thing that works both ways and gets you both nowhere.

As it is the game provides a level sync, and up-scales the encounters proportionate to the number of participants. If new players are finding difficulty in claiming enough enmity within the time span of the encounter it's really not a developer issue - it's a player issue. Inexperience is a thing. You can get gold naked, solo, wielding a highly under-level weapon - I can understand how the encounter might feel less than thrilling when it's trounced by a wave of players - but that's FATE. There is a reason few people enjoyed FATE to begin with - it was the exact same way when people were leveling their main/alt classes en masse.

The only "a**hole" is the guy that attacked you in chat for playing the game just the same as him.

Why would you side with someone who's got such a foul and outright hostile attitude towards other people? Honestly.

[Eekiki]

Telling others how to play is such a lovely thing that works both ways and gets you both nowhere.

The only "a**hole" is the guy that attacked you in chat for playing the game just the same as him.

Why would you side with someone who's got such a foul and outright hostile attitude towards other people? Honestly.

I'm not telling anybody anything. I'm stating some facts.

And who am I siding with again? I wasn't aware I was defending a person. Please take a few deep breaths and reconsider what you're accusing me of.

ATMA fates should really only be high level fates and not just 'any in the area'.

This is something I totally agree with. I know why SE did it this way (to have lowbie areas full of people for incoming PS4 players), but still. They're level 50 weapons. They should only be obtainable by completing level 50 content.

[Dhex]

I'm not telling anybody anything. I'm stating some facts.

And who am I siding with again? I wasn't aware I was defending a person. Please take a few deep breaths and reconsider what you're accusing me of.

It's intended, as you admit, to help new people level. I would agree - FATE and Atma is a cop out for the people hunting the pieces to upgrade; but you titled your thread "Unfair for low level players".

Which it really isn't. It helps them out and gives them a very easy vehicle that requires very little skill or dedication to quickly level up.

I'm not accusing you of anything just trying to make sense of your thread and it's contradictory points.

If a new player is attacking you in chat it's a personal problem, and not a design problem.

[Eekiki]

It's intended, as you admit, to help new people level. I would agree - FATE and Atma is a cop out for the people hunting the pieces to upgrade; but you titled your thread "Unfair for low level players".

Which it really isn't. It helps them out and gives them a very easy vehicle that requires very little skill or dedication to quickly level up.

I'm not accusing you of anything just trying to make sense of your thread and it's contradictory points.

If a new player is attacking you in chat it's a personal problem, and not a design problem.

What?

This isn't my thread. I didn't start it. We have some crossed wires here.

Or are you saying all us Lalafells look alike? o.o

[Dhex]

What?

This isn't my thread. I didn't start it. We have some crossed wires here.

Or are you saying all us Lalafells look alike? o.o

O___O oh dear lord.... I need to switch back... I'm having trouble identifying my own kind after being trapped in a Miqote body for so long.

/pouts in the bathroom

[Maikochan]

Did you just derp a little too hard there?


Or did you not realize that a majority of the FATE(s) in the zones that have Atma are far below level 50 and make sync pretty much a requirement for... almost all of them?

(Or were you trolling? If so carry on!)

Or am I one of those new players that finds the mobbing of FATEs I'm trying to enjoy highly frustrating? Since I'm nowhere near level 50, and don't currently feel a great desire to get there, I'm not really aware of what areas have what Atmas. Since they're level 50+ content, they should only show up in level 50+ content.

May I remind the end-gamers here that don't seem to find this to be a problem that, once upon a time, you were new to the game too?