Atmas - Unfair for low level players

[Aldotsk]

Also, how exactly am I being a hypocrite by doing the exact opposite of what you have accused me of doing?

*rolls eyes* Okay well, the low levels that you've met are obviously either trolling or just threw a sarcastic remark. Because that's not the feed back I've had.

[Rein-Yagami]

*rolls eyes* Okay well, the low levels that you've met are obviously either trolling or just threw a sarcastic remark. Because that's not the feed back I've had.

Or they actually appreciate the help and were grateful that not all lvl50s are dicks like you?

There will always be low level players that are little twats~ in the same way there will always be high level players that are little twats.

Using them as an excuse to change a game mechanic is pathetic and you should feel bad~ Please, get off Balmung if that's how you play~ We don't want you around anymore

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Using them as an excuse to change a game mechanic is pathetic and you should feel bad~ Please, get off Balmung if that's how you play~ We don't want you around anymore

You can always tell a lot about a person by whether they say "get off our server" to someone who's actually trying to help lowbies out.

They haven't been asking that the entire Atma grind be completely changed to not include FATEs, they're just asking it be tweaked so that the rabid pack of jackals running around lowlevel areas don't hurt a low level person's chances of getting a high ranking in a FATE (and thus the most xp and seals). It may be different on each server with how badly low level players are affected, but that shouldn't mean the issue is irrelevant completely.

Apparently this is a Balmung thing, so from Adamantiose, you don't have a say in this matter~ Thank you for dropping by though ^_^

Now I just question whether you're intentionally trolling.

[Rein-Yagami]

You can always tell a lot about a person by whether they say "get off our server" to someone who's actually trying to help lowbies out.
Now I just question whether you're intentionally trolling.

Awww what gave it away? That apparently Balmung is a pit of elitism and villainy?

On a serious note, No, I'm not actually trolling~ I'm fairly angry that I have been lumped together with the elitists that the OP is complaining about~

running a 4person atma farm with 4 reserved spaces for low level players so we can help them get gold (Party participation counts in fates), I'm apparently as bad as the groups that kick low level players for no reason~

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Awww what gave it away? That apparently Balmung is a pit of elitism and villainy?

On a serious note, No, I'm not actually trolling~ I'm fairly angry that I have been lumped together with the elitists that the OP is complaining about~

running a 4person atma farm with 4 reserved spaces for low level players so we can help them get gold (Party participation counts in fates), I'm apparently as bad as the groups that kick low level players for no reason~

Going to throw out there that telling someone to "get off my server" sounds elitist in and of itself.

And if you'd taken the time to read OP's posts, you'd see that they already mentioned a while back that they don't include EVERYONE in Balmung into the elitist pool. They stated that Balmung as an overall server is very elitist, not that EVERYONE in it is elitist. Just that a large portion of the server is. Large portion =/= every single person on the server.

Personally I've never stepped foot on Balmung, and all I hear about it is stuff from roleplayers who are on that server, so for all I knew, it was the main RP hub of FFXIV. So no, it wasn't because Balmung "is a pit of elitism and villainy". Your own words lended to the "wow that person sounds like a sarcastic jerk".

[Rein-Yagami]

Going to throw out there that telling someone to "get off my server" sounds elitist in and of itself.

And if you'd taken the time to read OP's posts, you'd see that they already mentioned a while back that they don't include EVERYONE in Balmung into the elitist pool. They stated that Balmung as an overall server is very elitist, not that EVERYONE in it is elitist. Just that a large portion of the server is. Large portion =/= every single person on the server.

Personally I've never stepped foot on Balmung, and all I hear about it is stuff from roleplayers who are on that server, so for all I knew, it was the main RP hub of FFXIV. So no, it wasn't because Balmung "is a pit of elitism and villainy". Your own words lended to the "wow that person sounds like a sarcastic jerk".

Did you read my post, followed directly by an accusation that I'm an elitist that restricted my OWN damn PF to stop the people I wanted to specifically help from fucking joining?

I'm sorry, but there's so much trolling going on by the OP that I can't help being exceptionally sarcastic to people like them~

As an inhabitant of Balmung, yes there are some elitists~ not a large portion of the server as our trolling OP would lead you to believe~

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Did you read my post, followed directly by an accusation that I'm an elitist that restricted my OWN damn PF to stop the people I wanted to specifically help from fucking joining?

I'm sorry, but there's so much trolling going on by the OP that I can't help being exceptionally sarcastic to people like them~

As an inhabitant of Balmung, yes there are some elitists~ not a large portion of the server as our trolling OP would lead you to believe~

How are they trolling by asking that this already horrid system for Atma farming be fixed slightly so that lower level players actually have a chance to get gold in FATEs without being forced to join a PF group that they'd be disadvantaged in anyway due to not having a mount? And from what I gathered, the OP claimed that you did something opposite of what you claim to. At that point I don't take sides, since it's their word over yours and without actual proof, neither of you can prove you're being truthful of that claim, so I don't give a crap what that was about.

My personal thing is, telling someone to "Get off my server" in itself is very elitist-like, regardless of whether you are or not. The reason I say this is because I had to take abuse like that from a former FC member who fancied himself an elitist and kept telling me to "get off his server, I don't want no filthy casuals on Ultros". So pardon me if that statement comes off as elitist.

Regardless of whether you personally feel the OP is "trolling" and "using lowbies as an excuse", the fact is that the issue they bring up IS an issue for some servers and something DOES need to be fixed with the Atma farming so that it doesn't hurt lowbies as much as it is in some areas. So once again, just because you personally don't think it's a problem doesn't mean that the problem doesn't exist. That's like people saying "there's no lag in Titan" solely because they haven't experienced lag.