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    PS3 Players are Handicapped

    I was on the other side of the fence on this discussion for the longest time. I played on PS3 and was clearing difficult content, so I didn't see a problem with it. I can play most content with ease. With the exception of Titan Extreme, which I attributed to connection speed. (1.5 mbps download)

    However, after playing beta for PS4 this weekend, I discovered how wrong I was. I beat titan with ease. Turn 4 did not lag for me. Basically, I could clear the content itself way before now. I was just having to fight my PS3's processing speed. It had nothing to do with connection speed.

    To make my point, I think PS3 needs to be dropped within the next month of subscription. If that is too soon, then make it by the end of this year at the latest. If Square Enix wants to retain their numbers to a small degree, they could offer a coupon for a percentage off a PS4 or something. I don't know, but I now see why PC players have tried to avoid us PS3 players so far in the game.

    PS3 players are handicapped and their really isn't a fix for it. PS3 is outdated and should not have a future in this game. It's only holding PS3 players back for now, but PS3 will hold this game back in the future if we have to keep the content playable for PS3 players.

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    EDIT: Quotes from others with similar views and experiences with PS3 version. I understand I may be jumping the gun on the dropping support thing, but I honestly feel bad for the PS3 users. PS3 just can't handle the game as it currently is. If you are good enough to play on PS3 despite horrid lag due to processing power.. Imaging what you could do on PS4. ^.^
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...m-good-with-it!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Suki- View Post
    It's wonderful don't feel like going back to the ps3 for the next few days .-. Honestly did not realise there was this much of a difference ^^ maybe just do dailys and craft til then :3
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    Let me explain in detail what am experiencing on ps4. I play on ps4 and also pc just want u to note that. Now that\\'s out the way. I have a Vizio full 1080p that\\'s where I been using my ps3 on and if u play on ps3 u should know about the nasty latency and lag we all have. Specially while fighting titan and doing t4. On ps4 u don\\'t have those issues AT ALL well I didn\\'t can\\'t speak for everyone. Since the ps4 beta this weekend all I been doing was coils and spamming titan ex and had noooooooooo issues. And the graphics omg it\\'s ridiculously Beautiful. It\\'s almost like u watching ice age the movie that\\'s how it look like on my tv. He\\'ll I don\\'t even want to see this game on ps3 I don\\'t even want to go back it\\'s like Coming from high class and going back to low low low class system like u playing on a Nintendo lol. but I can tell you this you will not be disappointed
    Quote Originally Posted by shadowrell_d-_-b View Post
    loved the ps4 version, I don't even want to ply the ps3 version till early release anymore ill probably just wait it out! very good job the ps4 version is beautiful, fast, little to no lag (depends) and I realy love the way the ps4 controller DF notification pops sound on your controller ^_^ that way I cn walk around the house and run back when the duty is actually ready!

    great job SE
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithera View Post
    Keep in mind dropping support doesn't mean cutting off PS3ers it just means PS3 wouldn't get all of the new shinies each patch. They would never basically tell paying customers they can no longer play and press a magic button to lock out PS3ers. They'd simply be urged to switch as more and more content and QoL items are added that they can't experience.
    Dropping support doesn't mean you can't play after they do. It means they wont get new content. If you aren't at endgame then it wouldn't affect you.
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    And as far as I know, loading times are a nightmare. When I run dungeons with PS3 players, they take a lot to load and start the Duty. I don't mind that, but they always let me know their frustration about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    And as far as I know, loading times are a nightmare. When I run dungeons with PS3 players, they take a lot to load and start the Duty. I don't mind that, but they always let me know their frustration about it.
    Not me loaded the last storyline dungeons and cutscenes of 2.0 well a head of my pc counter-parts, seriously people an SSD makes a world of difference.
    I admit the PS3 is limited to what it can load in a timely fashion and what it can display compared to the PC/PS4 - BUT load times and draw distances/NPC/player rendering is improved by the SSD.

    No need to drop PS3 just yet IMO, not unless they wanna lose players and revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko View Post
    Not me loaded the last storyline dungeons and cutscenes of 2.0 well a head of my pc counter-parts, seriously people an SSD makes a world of difference.
    I admit the PS3 is limited to what it can load in a timely fashion and what it can display compared to the PC/PS4 - BUT load times and draw distances/NPC/player rendering is improved by the SSD.

    No need to drop PS3 just yet IMO, not unless they wanna lose players and revenue.
    But why buy a SSD for $100+ when you can just get a PS4 for a couple of hundred more and not have your system you just upgraded not be dropped by Sony in 3-5 years. XD (my guess only)
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll View Post
    But why buy a SSD for $100+ when you can just get a PS4 for a couple of hundred more and not have your system you just upgraded not be dropped by Sony in 3-5 years. XD (my guess only)
    Why buy a PS4 when for not much more you can buy a PC and not have your system you just bought dropped by Sony in 6-7 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KenzieLynch View Post
    Why buy a PS4 when for not much more you can buy a PC and not have your system you just bought dropped by Sony in 6-7 years?
    Lol 9+. Their past systems seem to have lives of atleast 10 years. And because I hate mouse and keyboard controls and not all games allow for a game pad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganizationXIll View Post
    But why buy a SSD for $100+ when you can just get a PS4 for a couple of hundred more and not have your system you just upgraded not be dropped by Sony in 3-5 years. XD (my guess only)
    I upgraded to an SSD back in November in preperation for hitting end-game since I was expecting to hit it much sooner (life got in the way), got a realitively cheap pre-owned one myself. Also I'm suggesting the upgrade to an SSD as an alternative for the players who cant afford a PS4 (such as myself) and those who dont want to lose/use their PS3's in trading-in for a PS4 - again like me, I have far to many games still left to play in my collection lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrus-Wallace View Post
    And as far as I know, loading times are a nightmare. When I run dungeons with PS3 players, they take a lot to load and start the Duty. I don't mind that, but they always let me know their frustration about it.
    Well - I play on PS3 and 95% of the time I'm the first who loads to duty and then still waiting second or two for second player to pop up and after that a little more for the rest. I do have fast line (500 Mb) and SSD drive in PS3 (nothing fancy, mid range several years old Kingston) and actually my PS4 tooks a tiny bit longer to load up to duty then PS3 so I've ordered the 480 GB SSD from Crucial (which is being delivered today) and will swap it tonight to have it ready for Friday. So it's not all black and white and PS3 could still perform quite well - definetelly better that many "non-gaming" PCs.
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    They will eventually drop it, but I think to say to do it do quickly would be a very poor idea. If they just up and dropped PS3, even by the end of the year, they would lose players and not get them back. I know several people who play on the PS3 who do fine and have no intention of switching to the PC or PS4 anytime soon as they cannot afford that. To drop 1 of only 3 systems that can play the game is not something to be taken likely because there are a lot of users who have no other option at this point in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxx View Post
    They will eventually drop it
    They have a pretty poor precedent with this. They would rather hinder the game for additional platforms than cut their losses. FFXI was a pretty stellar example. The PS2's continued support cause a LOT of problems for the game, and even though it was something like 0.8% of the total population, they were content with updates taking 3x as long as they should and many things being impossible due to it's archaic structure.

    That being said, I don't think the PS3 is to that point yet, although I don't understand why anyone would play on a PS3, they haven't been halting progress for them yet.
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