We need a response from Yoshi about the Atma quest.

[Rein-Yagami]

4 days of Fate grinding (roughly 6+hours per day)

Got all 12 of mine after wasting about 2 hours on the two incorrectly labeled Atmas (Maiden and Ram)
managed to go from 0 seals to 50k TWICE~

I'm thankful to SE for giving me a reason to get off my ass and fate grind again~ running a tiny FC(1 other person) and we went from the bottom of lvl 6 to 3/4 of the way through just from my atma farming.

Quit whining..seriously guys, starting to take the piss at how much people whine about everything.

[revonine]

I'm honestly very surprised a rep or Yoshi himself hasn't addressed the atma thing in some form or another by now, whining, praising, angry about it whatever, the player base is talking about it.

[Pinworms]

I honestly don't think we need an explanation. The quest seems fine to me. You ether do it or not... Just because you want to coast doesn't mean everyone does. Doing the fates helps your company earn points step off the high horse because your not to good to do fates.

[hotroderx]

I have to agree I am already regretting renewing my sub. The way I feel is I already left one game that had tireless needless zerg grinding where the entire point was to press 1 button over and over. This game is going in that direction which this quest suggest then I wanna cut my loses and move on to other things sooner then later. I have a feeling there are plenty of other people who feel the same way. That other game also ignored the community most the time to. I am still semi new to FF and right now I am extremely unhappy.

I wanna make sure its clear I have no problem with grinding I enjoy a grind working towards a goal. I do not enjoy zerging or RNG based content... content based on luck is lazy enough said.

[NintenPyjak64]

We've known from the getgo this would be a very time consuming process. This is how SE wanted it. It will be eased up after 2.25 or 2.3 to make room for the next level of relic. Why does SE need to address this when they already stated how it would start?

[Vesuvias]

We've known from the getgo this would be a very time consuming process. This is how SE wanted it.

Time consuming is the books, they take time and effort to not only grind the myth to get but to also grind out the actual tasks that they require. but this grind just so that i can actually get to them, its not a grind it is pure lottery style luck, only difference is if i spend the amount of money in relation to the amount of time ive sunk into some of the zones for the atma. I might actually win the lottery, or one of the lesser prizes at least.

[hotroderx]

We've known from the getgo this would be a very time consuming process. This is how SE wanted it. It will be eased up after 2.25 or 2.3 to make room for the next level of relic. Why does SE need to address this when they already stated how it would start?

This is where your mistaken this quest does not take a long time. There are people out there who finished in a day. This quest is a lotto... how lucky are you. That makes for a extremely bad game design. I think thats what people are missing its not about how long it takes its about the fact its a roll of the dice.

The quest was Kill X number of mobs
Complete X number of Dungons
Compete EX primal's

then it be a grind and a time consuming one but it at least feel doable and rewarding. This current form its doable but is not rewarding at all and injects far to much RNG into the system.

I just wanna add to the people who say move on from this thread and others. Thats a horrible horrible idea people use to say that in Rift and Starwars the Old Republic and both games are basically cash shells now.

[NintenPyjak64]

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They weren't talking about the Atma process, they were talking about the ENTIRE Zodiak upgrade system, in this case BOTH Atma and Animus. It's like this BY DESIGN so people don't get their animus within a few hours

Not only that but ever think of the reason beyond getting Atmas as to why you're in these areas grinding FATEs? It's to see the world and interact with newer players, which is also what the low level Duty Roulette was designed for. People not only have been complaining for something time consuming and/or rewarding to do, but also newer players complain about how dead zones are. Atma zones don't look that dead anymore. I remember leveling an alt character pre 2.2 and noticing some FATEs I had to solo, or would lose by timing out with NOBODY else in the area. that seems pretty dead to me

But then again people are going to complain about every little thing. Hell I'm no better, I'm complaining about all the people complaining... Go figure

[Trespar]

You fail to see the point.

The problem isn't that it's time consuming, it's that it's entirely random and doesn't involve any sort of compelling gameplay.
It's boring.

You may argue that it's optional, but on the other hand, it walls off any future participation in the relic questchain for everyone skipping this step. I suppose they may make it easier later, but all that does is prove that it was a bad idea in the first place.

Sorry if we want to have fun with our "long term goals". I wasn't aware that's a bad thing.

[Ruri]

Let me guess, you got all 12 of yours within 8 hours of grinding? I'm on hour 32 now (I haven't been concentrating on it really; I know some people who did this much grinding within the first 3-4 days) and I have 4/12 Atmas. I know of people who have been grinding longer than I have, who haven't gotten a single drop yet. This is what's bull, not the fact that people are complaining about it.

I think I'm on hour 20 with 2 atmas. Makes me sick that people get all 12 within 12 hours or so (1 an hour). But such is RNG.