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    Your a bit wrong there. It's more like we are residents who paid down payment for a new luxury apartment but only to realize after having paid and moved in, as you put it the building " foundation is rotten" and the owner can't repay that initial payment.
    Except we were taken for a free tour beforehand, where we could see with our own eyes the rotten foundation. The presenter did not try to hide it, but mentioned that the walls are going to get painted before the apartment is sold.

    In addition many major news sites came to review the house and gave it horrible scores, which the homeless people chose to ignore- the walls were going to get painted after all!

    So, in the end people got what they foolishly paid for, but that wasn't enough to make up for the cost of building the house and it's upkeep- so now the owner is working on fixing the flaws to make the house attractive to new residents again. They may as well let the fools live in the apartment during that time, since they are working on the new elements elsewhere which will then be inserted to the apartment stage-by-stage.

    Analogues are such fun.

    Either way the point still stands. You don't build new floors before the foundation supporting it is fixed and stable. Trying to do both at the same time is retarded in more ways than one, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Except we were taken for a free tour beforehand, where we could see with our own eyes the rotten foundation. The presenter did not try to hide it, but mentioned that the walls are going to get painted before the apartment is sold.

    In addition many major news sites came to review the house and gave it horrible scores, which the homeless people chose to ignore- the walls were going to get painted after all!

    So, in the end people got what they foolishly paid for, but that wasn't enough to make up for the cost of building the house and it's upkeep- so now the owner is working on fixing the flaws to make the house attractive to new residents again. They may as well let the fools live in the apartment during that time, since they are working on the new elements elsewhere which will then be inserted to the apartment stage-by-stage.

    Analogues are such fun.

    Either way the point still stands. You don't build new floors before the foundation supporting it is fixed and stable. Trying to do both at the same time is retarded in more ways than one, too.
    You can't just blindly build a foundation for a game without knowing what you intend to implement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    You can't just blindly build a foundation for a game without knowing what you intend to implement.
    So they don't know whether they are going to implement a delivery box and chocobos after the foundation is dealt with?

    OK, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    So they don't know whether they are going to implement a delivery box and chocobos after the foundation is dealt with?

    OK, lol.
    The manner in which SE intend to deal with Airships suggests that it will be more complex than simply moving to an instanced location with a moving background (see FFXI) and will likely require forethought rather than tacked-on afterthough. (Airships were one of the things you originally listed as irrelevant).

    Anyway, most games develop things in unison because it is more efficient than developing things one after the other.

    SE admitted communication was a big issue for them, so maybe they prefer the one-tracked mind method of development because coordinating multiple tasks is too much of a logistical nightmare for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by giftforce View Post
    Anyway, most games develop things in unison because it is more efficient than developing things one after the other.

    SE admitted communication was a big issue for them, so maybe they prefer the one-tracked mind method of development because communicating multiple tasks is too much of a logistical nightmare for them.
    The combat, the class system, the UI, the servers, the engine, the economy, the areas.

    Everything mentioned above is developed in unison, and yes, it is efficient.

    And everything above is part of the rotten foundation, which needs to be addressed first.

    That doesn't mean they aren't considering features that come after the foundation is fixed. But they aren't a priority for development and should not be.

    Either way, the "rotten foundation" consists of more than one feature and SE has made clear that they are working on multiple (read: not ALL) tasks at once. The ones mentioned above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    The combat, the class system, the UI, the servers, the engine, the economy, the areas.

    Everything mentioned above is developed in unison, and yes, it is efficient.

    And everything above is part of the rotten foundation, which needs to be addressed first.

    That doesn't mean they aren't considering features that come after the foundation is fixed. But they aren't a priority for development and should not be.

    Either way, the "rotten foundation" consists of more than one feature and SE has made clear that they are working on multiple (read: not ALL) tasks at once. The ones mentioned above.
    exactly and one of those multiple tasks they are working on is airship, and that's words from the big guy himself, so ppl should stop complaining. one of the things you listed above is "the areas" and SE seems to clearly understand the areas need to be fixed and create a purpose for ppl to travel to LL or Grid. The sudden mention of airships, and the fact it was brought up in a post regarding areas and the economy of the other 2 cities suggest that the ships themselves might have something to do with how SE plans to fix the area and the economy in LL and Grid so we should just wait till we hear more information then reject airships so quickly
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