It's official Parsers are illegal in FFXIV

[Musashidon]

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it's not an anology its the truth you think your hand holding is ok because that's your opinion in the end it is holding your hand and telling you what you can already see.

[Mrbeansman]

it's not an anology its the truth you think your hand holding is ok because that's your opinion in the end it is holding your hand and telling you what you can already see.

Umm I'm pretty sure the only fight in the game in which you can see the dps results of you and seven other people would be a fight that last all but 2 minutes. People keep saying this completely forgetting that the game deletes lines in the damage log when it reaches a certain number of lines.

[rhemi1]

it's not an anology its the truth you think your hand holding is ok because that's your opinion in the end it is holding your hand and telling you what you can already see.

This argument against add-ons has existed since they became commonplace in MMOs and always remains the most ignorant and desperate plea against them I've ever seen.

[Musashidon]

This argument against add-ons has existed since they became commonplace in MMOs and always remains the most ignorant and desperate plea against them I've ever seen.

it's not at all a plea against them, i personally love the aoe warning. it lets me be lazy and not remember aoe's

i am not against add on's or parsers. but you can't openly state they aren't hand holding that's their job to hold your hand and make things easy.

[rhemi1]

it's not at all a plea against them, i personally love the aoe warning. it lets me be lazy and not remember aoe's

i am not against add on's or parsers. but you can't openly state they aren't hand holding that's their job to hold your hand and make things easy.

Yes, I can state that. Because it's clear you have no idea what a parser is or what a parser does.

What a parser DOES:

- Collects data from a file (Usually a combat log) and parses it into easily identifiable numbers
- Displays those numbers based on encounters and individuals, usually in an average (DPS) or total (Damage Done)

What a parser does NOT do:

- Tell you how to play your class
- Move you out of AOEs
- Tell you about boss mechanics
- Tell you your rotation
- Advises you how to gear
- Make you mean-spirited
- Give you any sort of in-game advantage

You learn MORE about all of those things from community guides and videos. Arguing that parsers somehow 'hold your hand' when they do absolutely nothing but display data in a hard number is ignorant. You would have to argue that everyone looking up guides and watching videos is also having their hand held, and that's just plain stupid.

[Musashidon]

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i understand what a parser is.


now i like how you throw ignorant around liek you used it right. community guides? how are they not hand holding are you saying you would be perfectly fine if yoshi p put out guides on all his content when he released it like t6-9 so you didn't have to learn and just repeat what they did in a video?

[rhemi1]

i understand what a parser is.


now i like how you throw ignorant around liek you used it right. community guides? how are they not hand holding are you saying you would be perfectly fine if yoshi p put out guides on all his content when he released it like t6-9 so you didn't have to learn and just repeat what they did in a video?

Knowing what to do is one thing. Executing it is an entirely different affair.

By your logic, nobody should wipe to anything before T7 in this game because videos of kills exist. But that isn't the case, is it?

My static group has been working on T6 since it came out. A guide on T6 exists. Does that mean we should kill it, no problem, after watching that video? No, of course not. I can look up a recipe on the internet and follow it to the letter and still have my dish turn out badly.

You're confusing seeking guidance with hand holding. Nobody is standing over my shoulder and personally helping me through content by posting a video or a guide. In the end it's still up to me and my 7 other raid members to execute it and perform well.

[Musashidon]

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by your logic the 50% boost in hm and the 25% boost in ex is just a guidance because you can still fail. it just helps you.

[ItzKris]

You learn MORE about all of those things from community guides and videos. Arguing that parsers somehow 'hold your hand' when they do absolutely nothing but display data in a hard number is ignorant. You would have to argue that everyone looking up guides and watching videos is also having their hand held, and that's just plain stupid.

Videos and guides is hand holding, they are showing you exactly what to watch out for and what to do. I accept that I am having my hand held when I look up said videos, and so should you.

[rhemi1]

Videos and guides is hand holding, they are showing you exactly what to watch out for and what to do. I accept that I am having my hand held when I look up said videos, and so should you.

I'll accept that I'm looking up help, not having my hand held. An unskilled player can look up all the videos they want and still completely screw up the fight down to the basic mechanics. They definitely don't teach you everything and I'd argue you learn more from just going in and wiping repeatedly than watching a video, especially a wordy, talky piece like anything Mr Happy puts out.