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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by kristerrr86 View Post
    Why does it bother you?
    Seems to me like some are upset about 3 star items being brought back, because some people are getting them for free.
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  2. #42
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    I always thought quick ventures will be reliant on the lv on your retainer.

    I don't mind them getting these things, but a lv. 12 botanist should not give you a primal weapon or high lv gear.

    Perhaps if they were lv 50 with an ilv of 70 and beyone then it'll be more accepted.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I always thought quick ventures will be reliant on the lv on your retainer.

    I don't mind them getting these things, but a lv. 12 botanist should not give you a primal weapon or high lv gear.

    Perhaps if they were lv 50 with an ilv of 70 and beyone then it'll be more accepted.
    Thank you for actually reading my post and seeing my point. I'm not as upset that they can get these items at all. It's just they can get them at such low levels and are not even that rare (I've gotten 4 lvl 70 items between crafted, pvp, and primal weapons in a little over a week). And if the drop rates of these items goes up as the retainers level up then the market could get flooded with these "rare" items pretty fast.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    Thank you for actually reading my post and seeing my point. I'm not as upset that they can get these items at all. It's just they can get them at such low levels and are not even that rare (I've gotten 4 lvl 70 items between crafted, pvp, and primal weapons in a little over a week). And if the drop rates of these items goes up as the retainers level up then the market could get flooded with these "rare" items pretty fast.
    Because in the time it takes to get them to 50 you'd have made millions on overpriced items..that's essentially what I'm reading. The ILVL closes the gap mainly, but the level itself is for the specific item seeking. I'm a crafter too, btw.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Because in the time it takes to get them to 50 you'd have made millions on overpriced items..that's essentially what I'm reading. The ILVL closes the gap mainly, but the level itself is for the specific item seeking. I'm a crafter too, btw.
    Nothing on the market is overpriced if someone is willing to pay that much. Just because you want something for dirt cheap doesn't mean the game has to give you the means of getting it easily.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    Nothing on the market is overpriced if someone is willing to pay that much. Just because you want something for dirt cheap doesn't mean the game has to give you the means of getting it easily.
    Nothing in their post said they want items dirt cheap. At this point you're just reading anything you want of opposing posts and throwing insults. This thread has become a joke.
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Nothing in their post said they want items dirt cheap. At this point you're just reading anything you want of opposing posts and throwing insults. This thread has become a joke.
    But they seem annoyed at the thought of crafted making "millions" off of new items. How much are crafters allowed to make? As much as people will pay. If you don't want to pay millions wait a few weeks for more crafters to join the market.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    But they seem annoyed at the thought of crafted making "millions" off of new items. How much are crafters allowed to make? As much as people will pay. If you don't want to pay millions wait a few weeks for more crafters to join the market.
    You seem to forget they're also a crafter. Pointing out that some items are overpriced in comparison to the worth of the materials necessary for them + time required to HQ does NOT mean they want things to be dirt cheap.

    You're still reading into things that aren't there in a vain attempt to justify your personal dislike of the quick venture RNG.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merciless View Post
    But they seem annoyed at the thought of crafted making "millions" off of new items. How much are crafters allowed to make? As much as people will pay. If you don't want to pay millions wait a few weeks for more crafters to join the market.
    Looking at the board, even the "retainer brought back" items are up for 800k-2.2million, no one is buying them because they're viewed as "overpriced." I said nothing about dirt cheap, and they are easy to come by, it's just at present time a lot of crafters weren't even fully melded in order to do so - However they are in no way wort 2-3million, for example, that sailor suit and dress? Yeah that's in no way worth multiple millions based on item acquisition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    You seem to forget they're also a crafter. Pointing out that some items are overpriced in comparison to the worth of the materials necessary for them + time required to HQ does NOT mean they want things to be dirt cheap.

    You're still reading into things that aren't there in a vain attempt to justify your personal dislike of the quick venture RNG.
    This - And I can even make some of the new 'popular' items.
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  10. #50
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    Getting a retainer to bring you back a really awesome item is like winning the lottery. Should we ban the lottery? xD Not to mention, just like the lottery, as time passes people will grow tired of spending ventures in hopes of getting said items, and stop doing it. Once people figure out how to craft items, their value might drop too, making it not worth it.

    But yeah, getting ventures is actually my main job in the game right now. -.- So tiresome...let's see..I spend 2 every hour for about 12 hours on 3 retainers...72 per day... I can't keep up.. /faints.
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    Last edited by Kat_Manx; 04-06-2014 at 05:28 AM.

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