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  1. #171
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    LexSunfire's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    Regardless of what Yoshi says, they will abide by the ToS. If you get busted, Yoshi isn't going to come to your aid.
    alright you're missing the point or just want to troll. you used a shoplifting analogy that doesn't work because a shoplifting analogy would require a situation where the store manager says "shoplift but only if you can keep it hush hush." the TOS says that third party programs or tools are prohibited because they give players an unfair advantage over other players. based on what the TOS says, programs like mumble or teamspeak are also prohibited, yet you don't see these threads that say "omg mumble is bannable!" Yoshi said if you use a parser keep it quiet. take that statement as you wish. but your shoplifting analogy just fails.
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    Last edited by LexSunfire; 04-05-2014 at 03:18 AM.

  2. #172
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    R1dder's Avatar
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    Drachen Xaela
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    I don't really see the problem with having something simple as a damage meter just to see your dps. It's not implemented, it's useful and just fun in general...

    But then again, not worth risking a ban for a simple addon ofc.
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  3. #173
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    Treble's Avatar
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    Treble Elysian
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    I want dps meters in this game like the ones we had in wow. a little meter with bars showing who's in the lead in dps actively updating it as the fight goes on.

    That meter made fights ALOT more fun in wow honestly, lol. Made you really realize just how much all your refinements mattered, and made you wanna keep figuring out more.
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  4. #174
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    I still cringe at the fact that telling people to step it up is now considered "harassment"
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  5. #175
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    I'm not sure how "we have identified several parties that used illegitimate practices" and "only two parties have legitimately completed “The Second Coil of Bahamut - Turn 3”" translates into anything having to do with parsing. If the groups were parsing turn 3 then wouldn't they have been parsing turn 1 and 2, and how was that not a violation or "illegitimate completion of.."?

    Seems like over reaction here..
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  6. #176
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    Demetirus Iludan
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    I'm not sure how "we have identified several parties that used illegitimate practices" and "only two parties have legitimately completed “The Second Coil of Bahamut - Turn 3”" translates into anything having to do with parsing. If the groups were parsing turn 3 then wouldn't they have been parsing turn 1 and 2, and how was that not a violation or "illegitimate completion of.."?
    From the official post:

    Although we will continue to monitor game data to ensure that similar illegitimate practices are not being used, we would like to remind players that using third-party programs, parsers, or other tools to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service, and will be dealt with strict disciplinary action.
    Bold is mine. Hope that helps! ^^

  7. #177
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    "to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service"

    Parsing is not a crime, people on the forums just cant stand being told with factual evidence they are doing something wrong, so they foam at the mouth and just scream for bans.
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  8. #178
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    Cloudcroft Ieyasu
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    Quote Originally Posted by LexSunfire View Post
    alright you're missing the point or just want to troll. you used a shoplifting analogy that doesn't work because a shoplifting analogy would require a situation where the store manager says "shoplift but only if you can keep it hush hush." the TOS says that third party programs or tools are prohibited because they give players an unfair advantage over other players. based on what the TOS says, programs like mumble or teamspeak are also prohibited, yet you don't see these threads that say "omg mumble is bannable!" Yoshi said if you use a parser keep it quiet. take that statement as you wish. but your shoplifting analogy just fails.
    In a sense you are right, it is more like a wal-mart employee saying s/he doesn't care what you do, just be hush hush. When you get caught, don't expect said employee to come to your aid. I also suggest you read Section 2 subsection 5 of your ToS. Then read section 3 subsection 6. This is the problem with parsers.

    Mumble, TS, and Vent or any number of communication tools outside of FFXIV have nothing to do with the game's data....
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    You should have bought an authenticator.....



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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moheeheeko View Post
    "to conduct actions players would not normally be able to do in the game is a violation of the Terms of Service"

    Parsing is not a crime, people on the forums just cant stand being told with factual evidence they are doing something wrong, so they foam at the mouth and just scream for bans.
    No one said it was a crime, it's just against the ToS, technically speaking.
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    You should have bought an authenticator.....



    Your tears feed me....

  10. #180
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    Shaone Abides
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    In a sense you are right, it is more like a wal-mart employee saying s/he doesn't care what you do, just be hush hush. When you get caught, don't expect said employee to come to your aid. I also suggest you read Section 2 subsection 5 of your ToS. Then read section 3 subsection 6. This is the problem with parsers.
    Yep, Yoshi is just the guy stacking the shelves full of delicious content. He doesn't decide how much it costs, or how many security guards to employ, just keeps stacking the shelves and knowing that as long as those shelves keep emptying his job is safe.
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