Non-crafters only: Are you happy with the vanity system?

[NyneAlexander]

Dude.... ffs...

My first craft was alch. It was probably the only one that, IN THE END, cause me a net loss while leveling. Every other craft, (save clothcraft because at the time the mobs needed were overcamped, so I just bought mats) gave me a NET GAIN after the leveling was done. You almost always make back the gil you put into these crafts as rewards from the leve quests you use to level them.

Given that this is the case, the only thing that you are investing during the crafting leveling process, is time.

THIS IS BY FAR THE EASIEST TIME I'VE EVER HAD LEVELING CRAFTING IN AN MMO. THIS IS EVEN EASIER THAN STAR WARS TOR, WHERE YOUR NPCS DID YOUR CRAFTING FOR YOU. STOR BEING LAZY AND LEVEL YOUR CRAFTS.

I'm gonna go home and sell multiple prisms tonight at a 300% mark up just because I can now. smh

FURTHERMORE, why should any of us crafters feel ashamed about trying to make money. They have literally stripped away the usefulness of crafting because people like you bitch about it being involved in end game gear. It has been reduced to crafting things for QoL (which is TOTALLY OPTIONAL AND NOT REQUIRED FOR ANY PROGRESSION ACTIVITIES) and crafting things for other DoH/DoL. You have a non-crafting option for almost everything revolving around actual gameplay.

So yea, pony up for those prisms, or man up and level your crafts.

[Versiroth]

lol @ op calling crafters greedy for wanting to make money out of the time and resources they spent on getting a craft to 50

According to others, like lemonade, leveling a crafting class is already fast and profitable. Stop being so greedy.

[Crater]

I think that it's pretty cool that there's finally a consumable, non-obsoletable (ie: demand will not disappear entirely) item that crafters can use to make money on jobs that aren't CUL.

Edit: And the "worst vanity system in history" comment in the OP kind of made me laugh. Haven't you ever played those games where copying the appearance of one item onto another destroys the original item?

[Versiroth]

I'm gonna go home and sell multiple prisms tonight at a 300% mark up just because I can now. smh

300%? So, about 1.5K? Good deal. I'll take a dozen.

So yea, pony up for those prisms, or man up and level your crafts.

Haha, "man up"? You nerds realize we're just playing a video game here, right? We aren't going into battle.

Also, stop being greedy, Greedy McGreederson.

[Volsung]

Say yet another greedy crafter. You people are just as bad as the trolls in DF and CT.

Except I don't even make money with crafting. I do it with gathering. I dont have a single melded crafter piece, I can't make
starred items. And even I know if you want something you have to put time into something. You can't be handed everything.

You should have learned growing up that time is money. You can either spend what money you earn now or invest it toward
somethign in the future. Thats what crafters did. They put an investment in.

I personally havnt bought any prisms because i know the price will fall when demand does.

Dailies, challenge log, and DR are great gil incomes atm (you are a tank right? you earn a ridic amount in DR)

[NyneAlexander]

300%? So, about 1.5K? Good deal. I'll take a dozen.


Also, stop being greedy, Greedy McGreederson.

How you gonna call me greedy when you just asked for a dozen prisms based off of my fore-mentioned price point. Guess what Cheapskate McGee. The price just went up.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Vesiroth, and northernladmsp, you guys are being ridiculous. The ridiculousness of the arguments here, I dont even.

LOL, it's ridiculous that I won't pay $10,000 gil per prism that has just been confirmed here takes about $500 to make? No, actually that's very logical.

Regardless, I'm stepping out of posting in this thread. The OP asked for opinions from non-crafters, and so far 80% of the responses have been insults from crafters. Take care everyone.

[Shyluv]

10k I agree is a bit steep. But 3k is perfectly reasonable.

Calling everyone in the thread who has even 1 craft to 50 "greedy" is pretty childish.

May as well just make everything free if selling them for 3k is greedy. As others have pointed out, 3k is breaking even or not even, depending. You don't know how much, if at all, the people are charging for them but you call them all greedy.

Try leveling all crafts to 50 and charging nothing for buying or gathering the materials.

[Versiroth]

How you gonna call me greedy when you just asked for a dozen prisms based off of my fore-mentioned price point. Guess what Cheapskate McGee. The price just went up.

Greedy McGreederson and Cheapskate McGee! Odd ball best friends or mortal enemies? You decide!

[Airikay]

Obvious troll
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