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    People who wanted a "FFXI-2" are talking about basics systems (standards you know?) like how in FFXI you have linkshell management, basic search system, basic party system that worked, basic defined jobs, basic content concepts etc.

    Which Gondai said they went the wrong route in not having the basic MMO standards at the start, yet FFXI did have them. Which is why it's even brought up, only so few people actually want a FFXI clone but more the basics that XI did right. Since its by the same company and the two games are in the same series is why XI is only even brought up mainly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    You are dumb. Fixing initial broken game design in XIV =/= XI
    You need to re-read that. "Not a clone. FFXI had basic systems XIV did not." is what he said.

    From what I've read 8/10 of the "FFXI-2 Whiners" don't physically want "FFXI with better graphics" they just want the solid battle system, the marketing system, the party search and party systems, and MAYBE the job system, added to the new lore/new world/new races.
    You can debate whether or not this would change FFXIV into FFXI-2, but what it would do, would be not essentially giving the finger to the 9-10 year players of FFXI.
    Most of the "whiners" actually put some variation of the following into their posts
    "We don't want FFXI-2, but give us the base systems that made one game so very very very awesome, that I played it for 8-10 years."
    Which I wholeheartedly agree with.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You do understand that FFXIV would never have 10-15mil players? they even know that why should they work on getting wow players then at the end only get 1-5% of wow players staying in ffxiv? then when FFXI stop where would all the ffxi players go to? ffxiv? am i right or wrong here? then they join ffxiv and they go wait a sec it feel like wow am out fuck this. Then SE would have to remake the game to feel more like final fantasy. This is what happen with tanaka he was trying to make it feel more western by doing this he fail and now ff fans want a final fantasy game not a wow game.

    SE i hope you understand matter what you do at the end we want a final fantasy game not a dam wow clone.
    You missed where I said "He's trying to redefine it, which I'm all for, but it just isn't the best idea when you are trying to draw people from other mmo's especially when their only experience in an mmo was with WoW."
    In FFXI an 18 man party was called an Alliance, in WoW it would basically be a raid.
    I said what I got from the translation is that he's trying to redefine the word. I never said it was a good idea, or that it was something I suggest.
    In fact, nothing you said really has anything to do with what I said, Why was I quoted? xD



    Also: Thanks a bunch for the translating Reinheart. I personally really appreciate that you take time out to do it.
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