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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
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    吉田氏:
     そこは,レイドという単語の捕らえ方だと思いますよ。例えば「WoW」(World of Warcraft)のレイドって5人,10人のやつがある一方で,20人越えのやつは「そんなに人を集められないよ」って寂れていたり,完全にハードゲー マーコンテンツ化しています。「EQ」(EverQuest)から始まったような,レイド=大規模PvEって捕らえ方ではなく,攻略性の高いコンテンツ, と僕は考えています。
    YoshiP: That depends on how you take Raid, for example in WoW there are Raids that are for 5 players, 10 players, and also 20+ “Hard to get that much people” type of stuff. Stuff for hardcore gamers. I am thinking as raid is contents that requires strategy, unlike EQ (EverQuest) raid=large-scale PvE.
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    Whoops, Yoshi-P! In WoW 5-man = dungeon, 10/25/40 man = raid
    What I got from what he said, is that when he hears the word raid, he doesn't attribute it to the same style of raid as WoW or EQ. He's trying to redefine it, which I'm all for, but it just isn't the best idea when you are trying to draw people from other mmo's especially when their only experience in an mmo was with WoW.
    He wants it to be synonymous with "YOU NEED TO PLAN TO WIN THIS" not "Oh lets get a bunch of people together to do this". (Again, my understanding of the translation only. Therefore it is COMPLETELY SPECULATION)
    Theoretically, with this description however we could have single player 'raid' content, which I am more than okay with. (Think Maat)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brotech View Post
    What I got from what he said, is that when he hears the word raid, he doesn't attribute it to the same style of raid as WoW or EQ. He's trying to redefine it, which I'm all for, but it just isn't the best idea when you are trying to draw people from other mmo's especially when their only experience in an mmo was with WoW.
    He wants it to be synonymous with "YOU NEED TO PLAN TO WIN THIS" not "Oh lets get a bunch of people together to do this". (Again, my understanding of the translation only. Therefore it is COMPLETELY SPECULATION)
    Theoretically, with this description however we could have single player 'raid' content, which I am more than okay with. (Think Maat)
    You do understand that FFXIV would never have 10-15mil players? they even know that why should they work on getting wow players then at the end only get 1-5% of wow players staying in ffxiv? then when FFXI stop where would all the ffxi players go to? ffxiv? am i right or wrong here? then they join ffxiv and they go wait a sec it feel like wow am out fuck this. Then SE would have to remake the game to feel more like final fantasy. This is what happen with tanaka he was trying to make it feel more western by doing this he fail and now ff fans want a final fantasy game not a wow game.

    SE i hope you understand matter what you do at the end we want a final fantasy game not a dam wow clone.
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    Last edited by Brotech; 06-26-2011 at 12:22 AM. Reason: condensed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    You do understand that FFXIV would never have 10-15mil players? they even know that why should they work on getting wow players then at the end only get 1-5% of wow players staying in ffxiv?
    Ironically enough... 5% of WoW's player base still amounts to more people the FFXI's....
    I didn't play WoW... I'm just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    Ironically enough... 5% of WoW's player base still amounts to more people the FFXI's....
    I didn't play WoW... I'm just sayin
    5% that would quit when they don't add enough stuff in a small amount of time which then they quit also and go back to wow at some point. WoW players quit wow then play something else and return when wow does a patch then they play other game that came out and wait for other wow patch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    5% that would quit when they don't add enough stuff in a small amount of time which then they quit also and go back to wow at some point. WoW players quit wow then play something else and return when wow does a patch then they play other game that came out and wait for other wow patch.
    True... SE needs that 6 million people who bought XIII on console
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    True... SE needs that 6 million people who bought XIII on console
    That would work remember SE want Final fantasy fan that never play a Online FF before that what they looking at not wow players. SE know wow players would just quit and return back to wow when a new patch come out or there new mmo so what even try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    That would work remember SE want Final fantasy fan that never play a Online FF before that what they looking at not wow players. SE know wow players would just quit and return back to wow when a new patch come out or there new mmo so what even try.
    Its a good idea to try to appeal to a new market, but i think if they want to hit an offline rpg market, they need to lower the grind, and increase the content/story. This game as it is, is basically just a leveling game. Most people buy offlinerpgs for the story adventure, and progression, which the game is currently lacking. And honestly they talk of WoW and EQ and other styles of current MMOs as their blueprint, those games would not appeal to the main final fantasy market.

    If thats thier market they should have spent all this time creating a gripping story, interesting charachters and stories weaved into the adventure and exploration of the world. Leveling is low on the list of priorities of an offline rpg player, It happens naturally over the course of exploration/adventuring.

    While it seems they want to go the direction of standardized MMOs i think to hit that market they need to go even further away from that.
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