Dev Response to "Up in Arms"?

[Nekodar]

1) the fate farming for atma is only to get the base relic atma that gradually upgrades to the relic animus... get past this rng based stage, and the rest is deterministic... atma drop rate seems to be around 4% based on that it took around 300 fates for me to get my relic atma, and I've seen others say they got theirs after around 300 fates as well, give or take a number...
2) this is essentially exactly what people on this forum begged for... they didn't think through what it would mean in practice, and now they bitch about it...
3) as others already pointed out, you can get Wave/Tidal Wave weapons that are equal to, or better, than the animus... gerolt masterworks weapon seem to require running second coil, in addition to soldiery tomes, but chances are the items from second coil can also be a rare reward from ventures (if people already get mog weapons from them, such items are not unthinkable to get...)

[Elim]

3) as others already pointed out, you can get Wave/Tidal Wave weapons that are equal to, or better, than the animus... gerolt masterworks weapon seem to require running second coil, in addition to soldiery tomes, but chances are the items from second coil can also be a rare reward from ventures (if people already get mog weapons from them, such items are not unthinkable to get...)

The stats(as in crit, det, ss, etc) on the tidal wave weapons may not be better than the Atma/Animus for some classes. Otherwise yeah, it's easier to simply clear/progress through Levi extreme instead.

The thing is, I actually liked the relic weapon quest before 2.2. In all honesty, I enjoyed the storyline and the trials. :3 Now...not so much, but I did the Atma anyway in hopes of it becoming enjoyable again in the future.

[ispano]

The stats(as in crit, det, ss, etc) on the tidal wave weapons may not be better than the Atma/Animus for some classes. Otherwise yeah, it's easier to simply clear/progress through Levi extreme instead.

The thing is, I actually liked the relic weapon quest before 2.2. In all honesty, I enjoyed the storyline and the trials. :3 Now...not so much, but I did the Atma anyway in hopes of it becoming enjoyable again in the future.

For all Classes, actually they are, Jobs on the other hand...

[Elim]

For all Classes, actually they are, Jobs on the other hand...

The devs said you'll eventually be able to choose the stats on your relic. So no, that may not be the case for the Animus. If I can stack crit on my SCH Animus, I'm going to be using that until I get the new allagan weapon.

[ispano]

The devs said you'll eventually be able to choose the stats on your relic. So no, that may not be the case for the Animus. If I can stack crit on my SCH Animus, I'm going to be using that until I get the new allagan weapon.

My point was that Classes cannot use Relics, only Jobs can.

[Elim]

My point was that Classes cannot use Relics, only Jobs can.

Oh, so you were just correcting my wording. Gotcha.

[ispano]

Oh, so you were just correcting my wording. Gotcha.

Sort of . I'm not fond of Job only gear when there's no counterpart, like there was in 1.0.