Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Djeserit]

in all honesty snide remarks gone, I belive 100 fates = you earned atma. Do this for each of the zones; maybe 50 for coerthas, 25 for northern than. and 10 for mor dhona. Throw in say a device that gathers the soul's needed to empower your weapon even if its not equipped so you could do this on low level classes, the only other stipulation being your only allowed one relic +1 in your armory and each time its removed from your armory to a retainer or armoire it looses 5% of the soul binding. Now that is a challenge and time sink with showing people their progression at a steady pace, not making it too easy of a grind and an understandable consequence to add to the difficulty.

This. Just copy the unlockable WS quests from XI.

Gold = 5 points
Silver = 3
Bronze = 1

Gain 250 total points in a zone and you get that zone's Atma. Maybe 200 or 150 for Coerthas, North Thanalan, Mor Dhona. Slap this idea into the challenge log and bam, you have a perfect time sink without randomness.

A secondary advantage to doing it this way would be that it would take at least 9 weeks to Atma all 9 relics, and by that time we should have 2.25.

[Seif]

I'm fine with the way it is. Just don't make it random drops but like a number of points to work towards. Randomizing something like this is just bad design.

For the future I'd like to see stuff like this just tied to some strong open world monsters for once.

Heaven knows we're DONE with all these fate spam fests.

[Laz87]

FATES for the ultimate weapon of this patch? low level FATES? lol
When will they understand FATES suck? meh

[Pacifyer]

This. Just copy the unlockable WS quests from XI.

Gold = 5 points
Silver = 3
Bronze = 1

Gain 250 total points in a zone and you get that zone's Atma. Maybe 200 or 150 for Coerthas, North Thanalan, Mor Dhona. Slap this idea into the challenge log and bam, you have a perfect time sink without randomness.

This describes my worst concern about the whole Zodiac thing. RNG. Most of us can sustain the grind but only if you see the progress. Here you don't and the whole RNG thing just makes you go mad. Some people get it on 2nd FATE and some spend 6+ hours to get it.

[Gormogon]

So after no Atma drops in the first day I have not been phased. Time for day two of farming. I am looking forward to it.

[FritoBandito]

I really wish the community had some say in the matter before this was implemented...

[Cobayn]

I don't understand how 'challenge' can be thought about as something like this. Mind-numbingly boring grinding of low level fates to get a drop is not challenging; or wait, maybe it is: I have to overcome my boredom and every single instinct that /shouts at me that this retardedly tedious activity is not worth it.

Therein lies the 'difficulty' of this 'challenge': not blowing your brains out.

Think I'll go in my backyard and count grains of sand! Think of how rewarding it'll be to find all those rusted nails, brick chips and all the crap they left after the house was built! Oh, the stories I'll be able to tell!

[Pacifyer]

You can add a quest to NPC in the respectful zone to obtain ATMA. That could be like complete 20 (30...) FATEs in the zone.
Just please get rid of the RNG.

There is a certain option to normalize RNG - make it that you need 5 pieces of ATMA but increase drop probability 5 times.

[lordparanoia]

I find that grinding FATEs is something compulsive.
I honestly don't enjoy doing this terrible quest. Ok, you want to make it harder, but make it at least enjoyable.
In 8 hours I dropped 2 atmas. Honestly there is no sense in wasting time doing FATEs.
LOL people are kinda desperate. Today a person told me "yesterday for 12hours I haven't dropped anything". Are we serious?
They could at least improve the drop rate.
I think I'll give up for now. I play Final Fantasy XIV for fun, not to satisfy my compulsive needs lol.

[Amberion]

Not sure why people complain about RNG in a RPG. To me, that is sort of like complaining that you need tactics in a strategy game.

I can agree with FATE being boring though. At least if it was NM like XI, then you had the adrenaline rush and endorphin kick if it dropped. But doubt that NM system could work for this sense this is an item for everyone.