Feedback Regarding the Relic Upgrade Quest

[Edellis]

As long as casuals don't have it fine with me :P

Well...i guess we all win then. The nature of the grind ensures that Animus will be acquired over time. Leviathain and Coil weapons actually require some strategy and competence to complete.


The Animus weapons are actually the casual ones, IMO. SE clearly realizes this, which i am greatly thankful for.

[Versiroth]

Isn't this the content people were asking for on these forums?

People wanted a terrible grind and open world content. Congrats, here it is!

Did you read the OP? I have no problem with grinding fates. I just wish they would have been new level 50 boss fates with new creatures to down. They could have kept the drop rate the same and I'd have been fine with it. Grinding fates we've all done countless times isn't new content at all.

I wouldn't even mind if it was a long 3-5 fate chain that lead to the boss. It's just the recycling of old fates that I dislike.

[HaiHai]

"Fates are dumb and boring!"
*SE makes fates not as viable for leveling
"NOBODY DOES FATES ANYMORE WFT SE"
*se makes those fates a critical part of a new high level weapon
"SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSQQQQQQQQQUUUUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!"

Pretty sure no one ever complained about nobody doing fates anymore.

You would think that SE would understand by now that after the backlash from launch and fate grinding, and also the fate fiasco after 2.1 release for CT attunement that NO ONE likes being forced to do fates.

[Fumijj_Gah]

It seems you never played FFXI and farm Salvage gear, don't you?

[Xairos]

Pretty sure no one ever complained about nobody doing fates anymore.

You would think that SE would get that after the backlash from launch and fate grinding, and also the fate fiasco after 2.1 release for CT attunement that NO ONE likes being forced to do fates.

Actually there were a few thread that noted people who didnt like dungeon grinding for levels. They wanted an incentive for more people to do fates because soloing a boss fate is (was?) kind of hard.

[LexSunfire]

It wouldn't be the same as the item wouldn't be guaranteed. Besides that, how is spamming fates over and over again new? Also, if they wanted low level fates repopulated, they could have even made it to where the new "boss" fate wouldn't spawn until a set number of other fates in the area were completed.

i never said grinding fates is new. I said at least this is different than the relic reborn quest. don't put words in my mouth. as to your suggestion, how is that any different than fate grinding? have to complete a set number of fates in the area before the one fate you needs pops... I see all sorts of complaints with that suggestion. and I can see all sorts of problems of having to do something like hydra, chimera, ifrit, garuda, and titan over and over again to get rng to give you what you need. isn't that the overall argument against rng in the first place?

at least with grinding low level fates you're guaranteed success and all you have to worry about is rng. if you change the atma quest to mirror relic reborn quest but add in rng instead of a guaranteed drop... you now have to worry about success AND rng. that'll take you even longer to get the atma you need.

and while waiting for fates to pop is not fun... waiting for parties to form or waiting on the duty finder is still waiting and equally not fun.

[HaiHai]

Actually there were a few thread that noted people who didnt like dungeon grinding for levels. They wanted an incentive for more people to do fates because soloing a boss fate is (was?) kind of hard.

Forcing high level players to do low level fates isn't a solution to that problem though. You are making players who already did those fates who are doing end game oriented content go back to do old, low level content just for the sake of a few low level alts or a few new players. Sure, for the next few weeks you may see lots of high level players participating, but one, or two months away from now when most everyone has done it already for their relic upgrade, those fates will be empty yet again, and the problem will not have been fixed.

Fates being required for any form of content is just a hindrance. Having to sit around and wait for them to spawn is anti fun and not what any game developer should be wanting their players to have to do.

[NorthernLadMSP]

I haven't played anything yet today. When you say the quest involves old fates, are they high level fates? Or, are they fates you have to level sync for?

[Elyana_Starfall]

It would have been different if they had added 12 new fates, related to Zodiac as the quest says (something like cancer in costa del sol etc.).
What they have actually done is trying to repopulate some areas, along with helping low level character completing fates.
Now, I wonder how could any person think this "Alma quest" it's difficult. It's not. It's long, it's boring and it's old content.
And nope, you're not hardcore if you collect all of the pieces, you're just patient and have plenty of time.
Now, the previous relic quest really gave you the idea of having earned it (I remember the joy when I first killed titan HM, after TONS of wipe and about 3 weeks of tries). I would have preferred something like that or new fates as said before.

[Tupsi]

It seems you never played FFXI and farm Salvage gear, don't you?

Considering I did it...let's see....last month? What's your point?

(Pst: Salvage drop rates have been guaranteed since at least 2008 if you use your cards.)