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  1. #21
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sessurea View Post
    Unless there is some crazy stupid mechanic like un-nerfed twisters, I think 4 months is a stretch. Look how quickly the extreme modes were downed?
    Pretty much.

    Un-nerfed twisters were built in a way so SE could stall the fight, I really doubt it would take more than 2-3 weeks if the mechanics are fair.

    Levi will take 1 week at worst, Primals fight are mostly about memorization.
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    Last edited by Taruranto; 03-27-2014 at 04:58 AM.

  2. #22
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    It wasn't an error, it was just amazingly hard to figure out, mostly because the top FC simply did not release what they knew about twisters.

    Before the turn 5 exploit that shut down progress for 2 week. FCs were hinting "we have a possible way to beat twin". But it was kept hush hush.

    Bascially worlds first did not so much involve mechanics as it involve keeping their ego down and their traps shut.
    Are we supposed to believe that the devs attempted their own boss and thought it was ok they couldn't complete it? Where is QA?
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  3. #23
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    Mei Mei
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    Are we supposed to believe that the devs attempted their own boss and thought it was ok they couldn't complete it? Where is QA?
    BG defeated unnerf twisters. They were at 90% dodge rate so they claimed. And this is from "I think this is how twisters works".

    If you QA something you knew exactly how it worked, it wouldn't be hard. Plus QA can instantly change their gear level i90 or test any phase of the fight separately.

    I could beat twin if I had a QA machine and a straight hotline to the battle programer.

    Too many egos here have shady memories of 2.0, should I requote the "Turn5 twisters" thread?
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    Last edited by kukurumei; 03-27-2014 at 05:00 AM.

  4. #24
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    Lyrre Myste
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    Cactuar
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    i am not going to make any guesses...partially because we have no idea what kind of mechanics are in store for us, and partially because i have a tendency to underestimate the tenacity of a human being.
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  5. #25
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    It took a month an a half to reach twin, and that wasn't a bug. no one could gear up with weekly lockouts.
    T4 was downed second week of September. That's half a month to reach twin, unless you're honestly counting beta phase.
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  6. #26
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    Synapse's Avatar
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    Synaptic Striker
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    Sargatanas
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    Leviathan - 4-5 days.

    Coil Complete clear - 14 days.
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  7. #27
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Balmung
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    There is some severely optimistic numbers here. It took about 2 months or so for Twin to be taken down for the first time. Those players had to get very close to i90 before it could even happen. No matter what the final turns will require top end gear and that will take time.Especially if the dungeon drops are the main i110 option.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    BG defeated unnerf twisters. They were at 90% dodge rate so they claimed. And this is from "I think this is how twisters works".

    If you QA something you knew exactly how it worked, it wouldn't be hard. Plus QA can instantly change their gear level i90 or test any phase of the fight separately.

    I could beat twin if I had a QA machine and a straight hotline to the battle programer.

    Too many egos here have shady memories of 2.0, should I requote the "Turn5 twisters" thread?
    If you talking about phases.. maybe..

    but First Legit Twintania was down after the twister nerf. Infact, 30 mins or so after ninja nerf.
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  9. #29
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I think it'll be about 1 or 1.5 months if there is a health check. A big problem here is no i90 crafted accessories to vit stack to help progression like there originally was for fireballs. Which means everyone should focus on main armor before accessories first basically. Vitality gains will probably be more important if T9 has anything similar to fireball.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    If you talking about phases.. maybe..

    but First Legit Twintania was down after the twister nerf. Infact, 30 mins or so after ninja nerf.
    ?

    First Legit Twintania kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDJde_SZfNw

    Before Twister nerf.
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