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    I dunno about all this perceived time sink here.

    Surely with all the "no-lifers" that the community thinks we have, we are bound to have some group clear everything within the week... :P

    Either we have "no-lifers" or we don't!

    Seriously though, the problems with twisters on twintania in the past were called a error by the devs at some point I thought. I don't think they will repeat having a "impossible" mechanic to inflate the amount of time needed to clear the top raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    I dunno about all this perceived time sink here.

    Surely with all the "no-lifers" that the community thinks we have, we are bound to have some group clear everything within the week... :P

    Either we have "no-lifers" or we don't!

    Seriously though, the problems with twisters on twintania in the past were called a error by the devs at some point I thought. I don't think they will repeat having a "impossible" mechanic to inflate the amount of time needed to clear the top raid.
    It wasn't an error, it was just amazingly hard to figure out, mostly because the top FC simply did not release what they knew about twisters.

    Before the turn 5 exploit that shut down progress for 2 week. FCs were hinting "we have a possible way to beat twin". But it was kept hush hush.

    Bascially worlds first did not so much involve mechanics as it involve keeping their ego down and their traps shut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    It wasn't an error, it was just amazingly hard to figure out, mostly because the top FC simply did not release what they knew about twisters.

    Before the turn 5 exploit that shut down progress for 2 week. FCs were hinting "we have a possible way to beat twin". But it was kept hush hush.

    Bascially worlds first did not so much involve mechanics as it involve keeping their ego down and their traps shut.
    Are we supposed to believe that the devs attempted their own boss and thought it was ok they couldn't complete it? Where is QA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    Are we supposed to believe that the devs attempted their own boss and thought it was ok they couldn't complete it? Where is QA?
    BG defeated unnerf twisters. They were at 90% dodge rate so they claimed. And this is from "I think this is how twisters works".

    If you QA something you knew exactly how it worked, it wouldn't be hard. Plus QA can instantly change their gear level i90 or test any phase of the fight separately.

    I could beat twin if I had a QA machine and a straight hotline to the battle programer.

    Too many egos here have shady memories of 2.0, should I requote the "Turn5 twisters" thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    BG defeated unnerf twisters. They were at 90% dodge rate so they claimed. And this is from "I think this is how twisters works".

    If you QA something you knew exactly how it worked, it wouldn't be hard. Plus QA can instantly change their gear level i90 or test any phase of the fight separately.

    I could beat twin if I had a QA machine and a straight hotline to the battle programer.

    Too many egos here have shady memories of 2.0, should I requote the "Turn5 twisters" thread?
    If you talking about phases.. maybe..

    but First Legit Twintania was down after the twister nerf. Infact, 30 mins or so after ninja nerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    If you talking about phases.. maybe..

    but First Legit Twintania was down after the twister nerf. Infact, 30 mins or so after ninja nerf.
    ?

    First Legit Twintania kill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDJde_SZfNw

    Before Twister nerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    If you talking about phases.. maybe..

    but First Legit Twintania was down after the twister nerf. Infact, 30 mins or so after ninja nerf.
    False. Blue Gartr was the first group to do it and the twister nerf was done right afterwards. They are the only group in the world with a legit pre-nerf kill.

    The game was released on August 27th 2013. They got their first win Oct 26th. That's two months everyone. That's how long it took to get the first kill the last time around, and some people are legitimately saying 2 or 3 weeks here? I laugh at those numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    False. Blue Gartr was the first group to do it and the twister nerf was done right afterwards. They are the only group in the world with a legit pre-nerf kill.
    Actually their Twin kill video WAS NOT "legit". The last Dreadknight they get bugs out on them. The Paladin or Monk gets stunned by Twin but the Dreadknight just sits there for 20 entire seconds instead of one-shotting the stunned player like it was supposed to. Therefore no one got a legit kill before the Twister nerf.

    Nothing against BG just saying they got their kill with a bugged out Dreadknight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    False. Blue Gartr was the first group to do it and the twister nerf was done right afterwards. They are the only group in the world with a legit pre-nerf kill.

    The game was released on August 27th 2013. They got their first win Oct 26th. That's two months everyone. That's how long it took to get the first kill the last time around, and some people are legitimately saying 2 or 3 weeks here? I laugh at those numbers.
    You also do realize that Twintania was taken down for almost an entire month for 'bug fixes.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by kukurumei View Post
    BG defeated unnerf twisters. They were at 90% dodge rate so they claimed. And this is from "I think this is how twisters works".

    If you QA something you knew exactly how it worked, it wouldn't be hard. Plus QA can instantly change their gear level i90 or test any phase of the fight separately.

    I could beat twin if I had a QA machine and a straight hotline to the battle programer.

    Too many egos here have shady memories of 2.0, should I requote the "Turn5 twisters" thread?
    Ah, ok. How did people clear it then before they "fixed" it?
    On a unrelated note, I worked for SCEA in their FPQA team for a project. If we let something like that get into a game, I'm pretty sure our team wouldn't have been asked back for the next project... :P (Though I was done after one project anyway. I didn't like working eighty hours a week.)

    But maybe pre-fix twisters were just really really hard and that's fine... It doesn't bother me any. I just thought that maybe only one group managed to kill it pre-fix. Which lead me to believe it was more than just being hard.
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    Last edited by Cherie; 03-27-2014 at 05:24 AM.