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  1. #31
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    Lyrro's Avatar
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    Lyrro Deigon
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    Fine.

    Dodging an attack that this guy says you shouldn't be able to, despite the fact he has no better idea than the rest of us what's "intended" to be dodgeable and what isn't? EXPLOIT!



    You heard it here, guys. Hiding behind a pillar = skill
    Nice, now you're yet another post closer to that next shiny medal. Gonna go out on a limb here and guess you've probably not been bothered to read all the previous posts before commenting, especially since your posts are single sentence remarks that seem to be written after skimming the last couple posts before yours each time, so I'm just going to congratulate you on being one post closer to your goal and tip my hat. You can't argue with someone who doesn't bother to read the posts.
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  2. #32
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    Shmunkster's Avatar
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    Meowla Caith'lan
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    Phoenix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrro View Post
    Teratotaur's doom attack was meant to hit every player in the room, hence the entire room getting hit rather than just an aoe zone. When you climb atop the wall in Teratotaur's room so he cannot hit you, while you're still able to hit him, that is an exploit.
    As others have said, and I have...it IS an AOE. You think otherwise because tanking is done central (so tank has quick access to all doom-pads) so it generally hits everyone anywhere. If we tanked Tera up on the pillar, we would get doom on the pillar. The high pillar/wall/platform shoes don't have anything to do with it

    Sometimes my tank can't get rid of doom in time and dies, and Tera comes to give me a kiss. Know what I do? Run to the furthest corner from my DPS. Why? Cos his next Doom will give them a safe zone in the opposite corner. On the floor; not up a pillar, or on a wall, just on the floor...in the opposite corner. Doesn't awlays work if the DPS are kicking-ass...he tries to kiss them instead.
    No different that tanking all those enemies facing corners/walls.....reduce area affected by aoe....you just can't really do that with Tera, cos the tank needs to be near the tiles.
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  3. #33
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    Merlinian's Avatar
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    Naudica Stormrage
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 53
    Who cares, its a stupid game, you wont loose your job for doing T2 enrage, nor go to hell. i do it every week and feel not a bit worse because of it. I am a looser? Thats fine but i got the same shiny allergan shit you have. I am a looser by definition spending my time maneuvering a pixel cat through pixel landscape.

    Yes, I am happy for those that beat T5 world/server first. But in the end it means nothing, noone remembers anyways. I dont remember who got server first T3 on Bleeding Hollow in 2005/2006.
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  4. #34
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    Zeronic's Avatar
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    Lenalee Luna
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    Odin
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    I don't understand this. If you can exploit it, why not? It makes it easier. I did it the original way and it went just fine as well. If you like a bit more challenge, go do it.
    Same with enrage, I can clear it the normal way, but enrage is easier.
    If you want these kind of things out of the game, write a formal letter, but don't try agonize over it with other players who want to do it the easy way.

  5. #35
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez View Post
    It's not really "cheating" any more than LoS'ing the big golem with pillars in AK first boss, Imminent Catastrophe on last boss, Garuda's Mistral Shriek/Song, among others. There's a reason primals/coil battlefields are flat and featureless.
    I would say it's more akin to standing in the tree in the first AK battle to avoid attacks. Being on top of that rock is not visually out of LoS like with the examples you mentioned, nor is it clearly a spot that is meant to be stood in to avoid an attack. It is pretty obviously an unintended quirk of the battlefield, and I suspect it has a high chance of being fixed by SE.
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  6. #36
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    Mordermi Auditore
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    Diabolos
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    From the 2.2 patch notes, under 'Resolved Issues': "An issue wherein the players can become invulnerble by standing at a certain location during the battle against Teratotaur in The Sunken Temple of Qarn."
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  7. #37
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    Navi Devarii
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    It does say "invulnerable" and not specifically "Avoid the Doom AOE". Maybe a bug where a player was completely un-attackable regardless of threat?

    Exploiting the environment is an old-as-dirt combat tactic. If they *really* wanted Tera's DOOM to be unavoidable, it would have had an absurdly huge area of effect such that there would never concievably be a gap in the room.
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  8. #38
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    Fynlar Eira
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    They weren't exactly *invulnerable* but yeah, it's pretty safe to assume that they are fixing up Mortal Ray to hit the entire room.
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  9. #39
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    Hermennes Cletrindale
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    You act as if SE isn't aware of this and they are. The fact that they haven't bothered to fix it speaks volumes about how much they care about it.
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    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bufkus View Post
    You act as if SE isn't aware of this and they are. The fact that they haven't bothered to fix it speaks volumes about how much they care about it.
    Apparently you didn't read this post just a few before yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mordermi View Post
    From the 2.2 patch notes, under 'Resolved Issues': "An issue wherein the players can become invulnerble by standing at a certain location during the battle against Teratotaur in The Sunken Temple of Qarn."
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