Over-healing should not generate extra threat

[therpgfanatic]

Moreover, a smart tank should know when to click regen off so that the healer doesn't suffer. It's amazing how many tanks will yell at healers for using regen, when they can simply REMOVE IT THEMSELVES.

A lot of us are PS3 players. It's not particularly fast to remove debuffs using the controller system. Especially when you ought to be using defensive buffs or your rotation.

I agree the overhealing generates threat mechanic causes more trouble than it ought to. Regen is a good example. They should at least get rid of the threat generated by HoTs.

OP, don't feel bad. The unfortunate thing is the majority of players who post in forums are the vocal minority who'd prefer a game's mechanics never change because they like to pride themselves on how elite they are at dealing with the bad mechanics. But once the bad mechanic is removed they will act as if it's the greatest change in the world.

[Lemon8or]

A lot of us are PS3 players. It's not particularly fast to remove debuffs using the controller system. Especially when you ought to be using defensive buffs or your rotation.

Please. I play on PC using exclusively controller for fights as well as my friends on PS3. It's not instant but it's easy to do.

As a white mage, I should be able to freely use regen without complicating pulls for a tank. It really is that simple.

As a Paladin, I should be able to freely use Riot Blade cause it looks cool. As a Warrior, I should be able to freely use Storm's Eye combo to do more damage. As a Monk, I should be able to freely use Demolish cause I like the animation. As a Black Mage, I should be able to freely use Blizzard cause I dislike Fire. See how horrible those sound? SE gives the skills to you to use as situation arises, not to freely use it whenever.

[Noahlimits]

Please. I play on PC using exclusively controller for fights as well as my friends on PS3. It's not instant but it's easy to do.

As a Paladin, I should be able to freely use Riot Blade cause it looks cool. As a Warrior, I should be able to freely use Storm's Eye combo to do more damage. As a Monk, I should be able to freely use Demolish cause I like the animation. As a Black Mage, I should be able to freely use Blizzard cause I dislike Fire. See how horrible those sound? SE gives the skills to you to use as situation arises, not to freely use it whenever.

Stop using logic. Oh, but wars should freely use Storm's Eye combo when they have hate to mitigate damage. But yeah, your point stands.

[Lemon8or]

Stop using logic. Oh, but wars should freely use Storm's Path combo when they have hate to mitigate damage. But yeah, your point stands.

Fixed that for you. :P

[Jinko]

As a Black Mage, I should be able to freely use Blizzard cause I dislike Fire.

Yea a frost build would be so welcome ..

[Pooky_Pasha]

Clueless stuff

Using a controller, it takes me all of 2 seconds to remove Regen if I so feel like it. Running to the next set of mobs is a great time to do that. If you're using defensive buffs or rotations, you should be in battle. If you are in battle, you should never want to remove Regen or any other buff. If you're going to remove a buff, you do it outside of battle when you won't be using cooldowns or rotations. Just FYI, you cannot manually remove debuffs. That is the job of Leeches/Esuna. You can, however, manually remove buffs.

As far as overhealing, if you're a halfway decent tank, you should barely notice it. If you get Regen cast on you during battle (when it should be cast, after you take damage), you will never notice the threat generation unless you are utterly terrible at tanking. In this game, any player actions that happens during the course of battle, including ticks of a pre-cast Regen, generate threat because they all effect the battle. This includes overhealing. The mobs don't really care that your Cure only healed for 500/1000 hit points. They just care that you cast it.

Honestly though, threat generation in this game is so simple and straight-forward, I don't know what to tell you if you can't understand it or handle it. It's not bad mechanics if you don't like it or can't handle it. It may just be you.