Why I don't like the idea of paying for extra retainers.

[Quesse]

Maybe they should just bump all the legacy members price up so everyone can have free retainers. S.E should of never offered Legacy status in the first place goofed it up.

without Legacy (ie. people paying for 1.0) there would be no 2.0 so actually you can say thank you to us

[Merciless]

without Legacy (ie. people paying for 1.0) there would be no 2.0 so actually you can say thank you to us

2.0 is a as different of a game as FFXI in my opinion. I don't like having planned options for 1.0 being assumed to be implemented in this current incarnation of the game.

[Doo]

without Legacy (ie. people paying for 1.0) there would be no 2.0 so actually you can say thank you to us

You guys would of been playing it regardless. FFXI was probably more crucial to FFXIV so I thank that great game.

[ReplicaX]

FFXI was probably more crucial to FFXIV so I thank that great game.

I'd like to think that 10 years of my subscription to XI, my sub to XIV 1.0 and now ARR has been helping in some way, yes. I'm not gonna use my legacy status as some sort of boast and I never have. My longevity with SE's MMOs doesn't give me anymore entitlement than a new player and I feel it shouldn't.

The ppl that are and the ppl carry a grudge against legacy are on the same level imo. Counter-productive.

[Eriatarka12]

without Legacy (ie. people paying for 1.0) there would be no 2.0 so actually you can say thank you to us

This is what legacy players actually believe.

[saber_alter]

This is what legacy players actually believe.

its a half truth. I'm sure quite a few ideas that 1.0 players came up with have made it into the game.

however, dropping dalamud onto eorzea was ultimately square's decision alone.

[Eriatarka12]

its a half truth. I'm sure quite a few ideas that 1.0 players came up with have made it into the game.

however, dropping dalamud onto eorzea was ultimately square's decision alone.

They were going to re-make the game to attempt to regain lost profits and salavage their reputation no matter what. This delusion that some legacy players have that they are the only reason 2.0 exists is ridiculous and an illusion to make themselves feel more important.

[Mandudez]

They were going to re-make the game to attempt to regain lost profits and salavage their reputation no matter what. This delusion that some legacy players have that they are the only reason 2.0 exists is ridiculous and an illusion to make themselves feel more important.

So we have the legacy players to thank for the monthly charge for extra retainers by their logic.

[Merle]

They were going to re-make the game to attempt to regain lost profits and salavage their reputation no matter what. This delusion that some legacy players have that they are the only reason 2.0 exists is ridiculous and an illusion to make themselves feel more important.

I'm not gonna say legacy players are "the only reason", but is truth that we wouldn't have 2.0 if legacy players hadn't paid. On January 2012 Yoshida said that they couldn't afford to design/implement 2.0 for free anymore and because of that they had to charge for 1.0 (with a smaller fee as compensation). So yeah, is not the only reason, but without legacy players paying for 1.0 we wouldn't have 2.0

[Felis]

without Legacy (ie. people paying for 1.0) there would be no 2.0 so actually you can say thank you to us

Hmm, no
Without payment there would have not be a 1.20-1.23 and no legacy accounts, but ARR would be still there.
They started the payment to keep 1.0 running until the planned end.