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  1. #81
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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    This, my friends, is what we call a logical fallacy. There is no precedent for charging extra for classes and the game was not designed with that in mind.

    The exact opposite is true for charging extra for retainers. In 1.0 they cost $1/month, had less storage, and also were planned to be able to level and do stuff for you.
    You, my friend, lost the point completely. I'm not saying that SE will do that, nor that I care if such and such MMO did whatever. What I'm saying is that, the same way as some people consider it viable to make a new character to avoid the 2$/month for a retainer and consider that just a mere convenience, the same can be said about the example that I gave. So, in the end, it all falls on where do we draw the line and why one is acceptable and the other not (and no, having a precedent doesn't count).
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  2. #82
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    If they can only be used for storage I don't really care, I can manage my inventory without having more of them.

    If they are full retainers it is paying for an advantage on market slots alone. With how easily venture tokens can be obtained it would be another advantage there as well.

    People using multiple accounts are also a tiny minority. You also can't freely throw items/gear/whatever to other characters on 1 account by yourself either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    The exact opposite is true for charging extra for retainers. In 1.0 they cost $1/month, had less storage, and also were planned to be able to level and do stuff for you.
    The key word here is planned. It never went live.
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    Last edited by Tiraelina; 03-23-2014 at 11:36 PM.

  3. #83
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    I am really annoyed that they are adding this ''feature'' to the game. An extra retainer should NOT cost an extra 2 dollars a month, what a slap in the face Square. The day that I am overwhelmed because I have no space, is the day that I cancel my subscription. I don't even know why this was considered.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    As has been said hundreds of times in this thread. Based on SE's history with FFXI, nothing. Calm down.
    I bet you also believed them when they said FC housing would be much more affordable too lol. This is FFXIV, not FFXI or 1.0 or any other game.
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    Last edited by Mandudez; 03-24-2014 at 08:54 AM.

  5. #85
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    Lady Gaga
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    As a Legacy jerk that only pays a little more than $40 for 6mo of service I am absoultely not plussed about paying $2-4 a month to the game I love to have additional functionality that requires extra server processing and storage to provide.

    That this was coming wasn't a surprise, either. Tanaka was talking about it before the 1.0 launch, even revealing the pricing we know now.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by BotenAnna View Post
    As a Legacy jerk that only pays a little more than $40 for 6mo of service I am absoultely not plussed about paying $2-4 a month to the game I love to have additional functionality that requires extra server processing and storage to provide.
    Maybe they should just bump all the legacy members price up so everyone can have free retainers. S.E should of never offered Legacy status in the first place goofed it up.
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  7. #87
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    I bet you also believed them when they said FC housing would be much more affordable too lol. This is FFXIV, not FFXI or 1.0 or any other game.
    They are now
    The housing areas are filling up, all L houses are as good as sold out (on legacy servers).

    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Maybe they should just bump all the legacy members price up so everyone can have free retainers. S.E should of never offered Legacy status in the first place goofed it up.
    It is a reward because we paid at least for 3 month for 1.0
    Other solution to get retainers for free would be to sell each extra character slot for 3$/month again and keep only the first character slot for free. Once a new race get implemented, buy a Fantasia or pay for a new charcter slot
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    Last edited by Felis; 03-24-2014 at 09:42 AM.

  8. #88
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    Daeada Fehr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    The key word here is planned. It never went live.
    So any feature that was planned for 1.0 but never launched is automatically horrible? Guess we should be complaining about Ventures in the first place. And forget about Musketeer, it must mean the end of the game as we know it if they ever get around to implementing that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mandudez View Post
    I bet you also believed them when they said FC housing would be much more affordable too lol. This is FFXIV, not FFXI or 1.0 or any other game.
    Housing is perfectly affordable as it is right now. Your expectations may not have been met, but if you have a small FC, a small house is perfectly fine and quite cheap.

    This may not be 1.0, but the plans they had for content and features in 1.0 still carried over.
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  9. #89
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    Quesse Mithril
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doo View Post
    Maybe they should just bump all the legacy members price up so everyone can have free retainers. S.E should of never offered Legacy status in the first place goofed it up.
    without Legacy (ie. people paying for 1.0) there would be no 2.0 so actually you can say thank you to us
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  10. #90
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    Armorer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    So any feature that was planned for 1.0 but never launched is automatically horrible? Guess we should be complaining about Ventures in the first place. And forget about Musketeer, it must mean the end of the game as we know it if they ever get around to implementing that!



    Housing is perfectly affordable as it is right now. Your expectations may not have been met, but if you have a small FC, a small house is perfectly fine and quite cheap.

    This may not be 1.0, but the plans they had for content and features in 1.0 still carried over.
    You misunderstand me. I KNEW that housing would be much more expensive than the masses thought it would be and planned accordingly.
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