Why I don't like the idea of paying for extra retainers.

[FoxiLady]

So many people complaining about the said *advantage* of having extra retainers. When I check the characters on the lodestone the majority of them have relatively no crafting or gathering classes completed. So I have to wonder where is the *advantage* if you haven't bothered to even build those classes it isn't an area of the game you are even interested in. What is the point of sending out retainers to do these things if you don't have the skills to even use them.

[Chasely]

The cash shop is opening up with a few vanity items, and retainers. If these things sell well, Se will add more items. The more items SE adds to this, the fewer items we actually get in-game. They will continue to push until players say 'no.'

SE does not need the extra money from the cash shop to survive. It's not going to feed their starving children or to rebuild communities wracked by natural disasters. It is a blatant money grab. The more money you give them, the more they will try to get from you.

While I do not believe Retainers will present a huge bonus to the players who buy them, everything players buy will give SE the idea to take more content we should be getting solely for our subscriptions and put it into said cash shop. I don't understand why this is so difficult to grasp.

[Doo]

I don't understand why this is so difficult to grasp.

They understand, they just don't care. Sort of like people that buy from rmt. They know it's bad for the game but it doesn't matter since they don't have to farm/grind for it.

[Starlord]

They understand, they just don't care. Sort of like people that buy from rmt. They know it's bad for the game but it doesn't matter since they don't have to farm/grind for it.

I care, just with the current design of FFXIV, I just don't see it happening. However, if the people feel this will influence the future, just don't invest in it.

The only reason Retainers are an exception is because it's already in the game. If they were to do things like:

1) Exp Booster ( which this game doesn't need as it already as a Exp booster embedded kinda that everyone can use lol) (3-4k a kill at higher levels.)
2) Vanity items
3) Gear that you can only get in the cash shop

Especially #3, you would need to change ALOT of stuff to the game to accommodate the balance of the game.

Yoshi-P said As long as it doesn't affect game balance, he "could do it".

[Arkghyom]

If you don't like it, then don't pay.

[Yshnal]

So many people complaining about the said *advantage* of having extra retainers. When I check the characters on the lodestone the majority of them have relatively no crafting or gathering classes completed. So I have to wonder where is the *advantage* if you haven't bothered to even build those classes it isn't an area of the game you are even interested in. What is the point of sending out retainers to do these things if you don't have the skills to even use them.

Just because someone hasn't leveled them, it doesn't mean that they aren't interested on them; they might be busy doing other things. Also, you forget that some people have a lot of fun playing the market, and you don't really need to craft anything to do that.

Moreover, I'm pretty sure that retainers won't be getting just crafting stuff, specially the unique items. So, with more retainers, a better chance to get one of those and sell them for quite some money (see Treasure Maps). And that doesn't have anything to do with having such and such at level 50.

Now, on my book, getting more gil because you paid real money feels cheap and falls close to the same category as buying from RMTs.

[Phaydra]

I bet you thought the rewards from maps would be worthless after a few weeks too. Yet there are still items worth over 500,000 gil on my server. So we already have evidence that these unique items could be very rare and valuable.

I know you didn't check all the facts before you made this thread. Now you're making a guess at to how I think. This does not give your post much merit.

[Skivvy]

The cash shop is opening up with a few vanity items, and retainers. If these things sell well, Se will add more items. The more items SE adds to this, the fewer items we actually get in-game. They will continue to push until players say 'no.'

SE does not need the extra money from the cash shop to survive. It's not going to feed their starving children or to rebuild communities wracked by natural disasters. It is a blatant money grab. The more money you give them, the more they will try to get from you.

While I do not believe Retainers will present a huge bonus to the players who buy them, everything players buy will give SE the idea to take more content we should be getting solely for our subscriptions and put it into said cash shop. I don't understand why this is so difficult to grasp.

How do you know what SE will do? You have the inside scoop, eh? People need to calm down. XI has the same services available for purchase (minus the upcoming fantasia), and that game hasn't turned into a cash shop.

[Djeserit]

I bet you thought the rewards from maps would be worthless after a few weeks too. Yet there are still items worth over 500,000 gil on my server. So we already have evidence that these unique items could be very rare and valuable.

Certain rewards from maps are still expensive because their drop rate is super low. Unless top tier ventures have like a 1% success rate, it in unlikely to be the same for the rewards.

So, when they add a new class they can make us pay 2$/month to increase the actual number of classes that our character can have, right? After all, if you want to level the new one you could just start a new character...

This, my friends, is what we call a logical fallacy. There is no precedent for charging extra for classes and the game was not designed with that in mind.

The exact opposite is true for charging extra for retainers. In 1.0 they cost $1/month, had less storage, and also were planned to be able to level and do stuff for you.

How do you know what SE will do? You have the inside scoop, eh? People need to calm down. XI has the same services available for purchase (minus the upcoming fantasia), and that game hasn't turned into a cash shop.

This x1000. You people are claiming doom and gloom when there's no evidence you should.

[Rieze_Xeero]

I don't care if it has an advantage or not. I'm here to play and to have the best character that I can be. I'm not here to show off. Even if I don't do venture's I can still maximize my game (maybe not as fast as the others but what to I care about others... its my game) hahaha