This game is play to win.

[HoneyBiscuit]

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I'm not saying you can't disagree with the additional retainers. Hell I'm not saying I agree with them. I'm saying people need to stop calling it pay 2 win. It's not. People constantly spout "pay to win" but I don't think it means what they think it means. I remember someone saying pay to win in a thread about fantasia. I mean we all know lalafell give maximum dps so nobody should get fantasia potions.

The distinction is whether or not the optional services gate your progress in the game. Like needing to use a cash shop for gear strong enough to clear end game dungeons. It's so obvious what's wrong with that.

I will concede this thread if someone can provide irrefutable evidence that extra retainers are in fact, required to access all areas of content this game has to offer. I will agree this game is pay 2 win, unsub, and send that poster noodz(I'm male so make sure you know what you're getting into)

these forums are all about complaining. seriously, I don't even know why I check out the forums anymore. now, we're complaining about people complaining. so i'm going to complain about you complaining about other people complaining. take that!

I'm going to complain about your complaint of me complaining in a complaint thread about the complaints of others. Complain.

Complaints are good. If no one complained SE will think everyone is happy. Complaints have gotten them to make changes in game already. Nobody should stop complaining. Just don't forget to give SE your love too.

I've no issue with the complaints of others. I've issue with the giant overreaction to the so called "pay2win" retainers.