Over-healing should not generate extra threat

[Mycow8me]

Then tell your tank to grab aggro better and don't put regen on a full HP tank. :/

Your assuming a one case scenario. When doing SR for example a tank will run to the next mob directly after a fight and usually be at full hp before then with regen still going. Tanks do not have a ranged AOE hate grab ability. They usually go in and either flash or overpower and by then the mobs can be split apart or moving at the healer already from detection agro.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think this is a problem worth fixing. It's mostly just annoying.

[Lemon8or]

Don't use a HoT on the tank when they have full HP? Did you just really say that?
I don't think you understand the concept of a healing over time spell. It is used to preempt damage.

Yes, I did just say that. Healing over time isn't really used to preempt damage. It's used to counter constant damage like Auto-attack. Shielding (like Stoneskin and Adloqium) is used to preempt damage. It is NOT unreasonable for the tank to remove its lingering effect if they still have it on. I and my tank friends have no problem removing it.

Your assuming a one case scenario. When doing SR for example a tank will run to the next mob directly after a fight and usually be at full hp before then with regen still going. Tanks do not have a ranged AOE hate grab ability. They usually go in and either flash or overpower and by then the mobs can be split apart or moving at the healer already from detection agro.

Which is why it's important that you remove it. I KNOW tanks do not have ranged AOE hate ability but you can engage with Tomahawk, followed by Flash as you run through mobs and that will secure hate if you click it off. It takes literally 2 seconds or less to do and you can do it while running. On controller, since you're moving with left stick, click select with right hand till you're at the buff section, click circle to cancel and move on. On keyboard and mouse, you're moving with your left hand, right click with your right hand or vice versa for lefties.

[Midori_Nabooru]

Yes, I did just say that. Healing over time isn't really used to preempt damage. It's used to counter constant damage like Auto-attack. Shielding (like Stoneskin and Adloqium) is used to preempt damage. It is NOT unreasonable for the tank to remove its lingering effect if they still have it on. I and my tank friends have no problem removing it.

Basically this sums it up.


Here's an idea, if you notice your tank still has Regen ticking on him/her you can make them aware before they make another pull.

[Fynlar]

After coming from XI (a game where heals generated enmity in accordance to how much HP was actually healed, not by how much they would have healed; the former IMO is how it should be), I'm kind of surprised how many people here are against the OP.

To me it feels like an instance of lazy programming, but whatever.

[Alkimi]

After coming from XI (a game where heals generated enmity in accordance to how much HP was actually healed, not by how much they would have healed; the former IMO is how it should be), I'm kind of surprised how many people here are against the OP.

To me it feels like an instance of lazy programming, but whatever.

More like lazy healers. You can't just spam cure and expect to be ok, just get better at your job and you won't have that problem. Also XI and enmity shouldn't be in the same sentence, that game's enmity system was completely broken and never got fixed.

[Jinko]

After coming from XI (a game where heals generated enmity in accordance to how much HP was actually healed, not by how much they would have healed; the former IMO is how it should be), I'm kind of surprised how many people here are against the OP.

To me it feels like an instance of lazy programming, but whatever.

I guess I would have to agree, also coming from other games besides FF11 its second nature to cast HOTs on the tank before they pull so for some it may just be a force of habit.

I can see it from both points of view though, I won't be surprised if this mechanic is changed in the future because it seems more like an over sight than working as intended.