Men in Dresses

[Mychael]

The entire thing boils down to "why shouldn't they let it be available?" All gear in the game looks the same on both genders, outside of seasonal and event costumes (and even then, a lot of seasonal costumes are the same for male and female), so why not just allow dresses to be done the same way? They've already established a pattern of gear looking the same or almost exactly the same on both genders, why not continue it?

Hopefully, it will be available. But as this thread demonstrates, I don't know if the majority is ready for it. And like I said, now that this has become a big self-identification debate, I doubt SE will take a stand.

[Erendis]

I have vague memories of seeing male roes wearing the flower hats since 2.0 release but I'm not sure if that was altered screen shots or if they actually loosened up that restriction, however the fact that that restriction was ever in place really speaks volumes about the likelihood of males wearing traditional dresses.

Everyone can wear stablemaid's hat at lvl 12+.

I'll just leave this here (I'm a big fan of Nique's art, if you can't tell):

[Synapse]

Hell, woman still are seen as 'support' type (WHM was always a female in past FF) and even the person who rebooted Tomb Raider said that its still hard to make a female leading role popular. But today we have more females leaders (Lightning and Serah, albeit FF13 seems like a taboo =P), Tomb Raider, etc so it CAN change.

I think the main reason players(both male and female) prefer a male role model is because males are better at physical roles(its in men's genetic). I dont even know many female gamers that prefer female main characters.

I only liked metroid because i thought Samus was a man!

FFXIII imo sucked, not sure if it was the female lead(i used fang as my main character), or the linearity of the game or lack of things to do... tho i loved the combat system.

[Xandim]

It's sad but while the people saying "NO" overweights the people saying "YES" I don't see it hapenning... Its too bad cause I'd love to wear some of the new dresses, and I don't wanna make a female char just for that (mainly beucase I don't relate anything AT ALL to a woman xD)

I think the main reason players(both male and female) prefer a male role model is because males are better at physical roles(its in men's genetic). I dont even know many female gamers that prefer female main characters.

I only liked metroid because i thought Samus was a man!

FFXIII imo sucked, not sure if it was the female lead(i used fang as my main character), or the linearity of the game or lack of things to do... tho i loved the combat system.

Yup, sadly people still see man as the leading, strong, "leave everything to me" kinda person and woman are still seen as agile, supportive, "where is a man to come and rescue me?" kinda person, even tho times have changed significantly. Myself personally I like all types of leaders. Males (well cause I like men too ) and females (specially those that dont fit the "i need rescue" kinda type, like Samus and Lara Croft).

[Versiroth]

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What you're not seeing is that by not tolerating and respecting someone's culture or beliefs that clash with your own, you're really no better than them. You both have a different belief structure. To them, you trying to insert homosexuality beliefs into their life is the same as them trying to take it away from you. You don't like it and neither do they. Who's right and who's wrong here? Who's beliefs win? Both groups need to simply acknowledge and respect the others and respectively agree to disagree.

Again, I'm not religious and I don't have an issue with LGBT people, but tolerance in one's beliefs goes both ways. When people try to tell me I'm wrong for not believing in god, I simply say that I respect their right to believe what they want and that they should extend me that same courtesy. You can't expect people to embrace your beliefs and at the same time call them names and insult them for their own.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

I think the main reason players(both male and female) prefer a male role model is because males are better at physical roles(its in men's genetic). I dont even know many female gamers that prefer female main characters.

I only liked metroid because i thought Samus was a man!

FFXIII imo sucked, not sure if it was the female lead(i used fang as my main character), or the linearity of the game or lack of things to do... tho i loved the combat system.

Commander FemShep in Mass Effect would like to have a word with you and your misogynistic statements.

[Synapse]

Commander FemShep in Mass Effect would like to have a word with you and your misogynistic statements.

Stating a fact about men having better physical strength is not misogynistic, its ignorant to state otherwise. Tho i hope people do abuse this word more, so it can lose its meaning and people don't even bat an eye about it when it actually happens.

What are the ratio of female lead roles to male in game?

[mbncd]

Stating a fact about men having better physical strength is not misogynistic, its ignorant to state otherwise. Tho i hope people do abuse this word more, so it can lose its meaning and people don't even bat an eye about it when it actually happens.

What are the ratio of female lead roles to male in game?

I think there's about as many female leads as male.

Yshtola, Yda, Minfilia, leaders of all 3 main cities, adventurer guild leaders in 2 of the cities (wouldn't normally call them leads but they are people you interact with a LOT at the start); they're all female. Meanwhile there's one male city leader, 3 male scions and one male adventurer guild leader. The "evil" leaders sway more to the other side, with most being male, but I think that just about evens them out.

Edit: Forgot whats'ername, the little lala receptionist of the scions. Then there's also the less central leaders, like male amaljaa and female sylphs.

[Mhaeric]

What you're not seeing is that by not tolerating and respecting someone's culture or beliefs that clash with your own, you're really no better than them. You both have a different belief structure. To them, you trying to insert homosexuality beliefs into their life is the same as them trying to take it away from you. You don't like it and neither do they. Who's right and who's wrong here? Who's beliefs win? Both groups need to simply acknowledge and respect the others and respectively agree to disagree.

Again, I'm not religious and I don't have an issue with LGBT people, but tolerance in one's beliefs goes both ways. When people try to tell me I'm wrong for not believing in god, I simply say that I respect their right to believe what they want and that they should extend me that same courtesy. You can't expect people to embrace your beliefs and at the same time call them names and insult them for their own.

What you are not understanding is that being gay or trans is not a belief nor an opinion. People who don't like that people are gay or trans don't have to embrace it at all, but they cannot restrict it. They can certainly believe what they want to believe, but the moment that turns into action that prevents someone who is gay or trans from simply living openly as gay or trans without repercussion there is a problem.

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

Stating a fact about men having better physical strength is not misogynistic, its ignorant to state otherwise. Tho i hope people do abuse this word more, so it can lose its meaning and people don't even bat an eye about it when it actually happens.

What are the ratio of female lead roles to male in game?

"I only liked metroid because i thought Samus was a man!" totally doesn't sound misogynistic at all. I'm not arguing that men have more muscle mass than women do, and thus have slightly more strength because of the way their body is made, but everything else you said was pretty misogynistic. So if you had known Samus was a female, you wouldn't have played it? JUST because the lead is female? Lol okay then, that speaks volumes.

The problem with female leads not being as abundant in gaming is because of misogynistic male gamers who still think women have no place in video games outside of sexualized eyecandy. THAT'S the problem, not that "women aren't as strong as men". If there were less misogynistic male developers and gamers in the industry, we'd see a lot more well-written female leads.