360 Day Veteran Reward - Aetheryte Ticket

[MeeDeggiThePunisher]

Entitlement? Damn right people are entitled to leave feedback on a service they are paying for. Even if it is for the smallest of the small issues like vet rewards. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A 16+ PAGE ISSUE! If you like the vet rewards then just accept them and move on with your life. Some people don't like them and are providing SE with feedback.

[mythicrose]

Such great tags going on here..

[C-croft]

End of a promotion? that is the best argument you could come up with? oh god.

I love how those against a better veteran reward have absolutely not a single compelling argument.

In fact, it is really strange to see people choosing to have sub-par items (and vehemently defend it) over the possibility of attaining a better one.

There is no compelling argument to make. You are crying over something that doesn't even have to be given. It's called looking a gift horse in the mouth. We don't have the right to choose. You and some others are turning this into Occupy Eorzea. It's entitlement and the fact that you choose to deny this and state that there is even a compelling argument to make is ridiculous.

[C-croft]

I think you grossly underestimate how many people actually purchase larger subscriptions to obtain items early and how much money SE makes thanks to these longer subscriptions. And like I said, that's a perfectly fine way to operate.

They don't make any extra money from subscribers like you. However, they are still trying to get you to subscribe longer; it just doesn't matter to you in particular. They make a ton of extra money off of everyone else. I can't even imagine how many accounts chose a longer model just to get the Behemoth mount early. (Whether or not these players made a wise decision or not isn't the point.)

SE puts these items up as an incentive to subscribe longer. That's not even debatable.

I get the same item as anyone else regardless if I subscribe longer or at 30 days. SE doesn't make anymore or less when people put money into the game on a 30 day or 180 day. Sure profit centers might have gotten a nice boost one month, but guess what, cost centers take a hit for the following two months. I like how people think that because someone paid for 3 months up front, its like the costs of running a daily business is somehow diminished for the following 2 months.

[SendohJin]

Wow. Just wow at this one...My opinion would be "It's okay, you have bigger things to worry about. I have a job, you don't need to give me money."

actually, if in that scenario, when someone turns 18 and their parents sit them down and give them the "you're all grown up, you don't need anything from us" speech, I'm okay with that.

getting nothing is better getting something sub par. getting something sub par means they put thought into it and decided poorly. when they make poor decisions it influences consumer confidence on whether or not they will continue making poor decisions in the future.

Maybe your parents couldn't give you the $100 that year because there were more important things to take care of to make sure your life is stable and enjoyable? Think about that? That was such a "Spoiled kid" kind of response..

so your argument is they are giving us Teleport tickets because they can't afford to give us something better? the point of analogies is to give parallel examples, obviously this was not a decision based on financial constraint.

[Galactimus]

I get the same item as anyone else regardless if I subscribe longer or at 30 days. SE doesn't make anymore or less when people put money into the game on a 30 day or 180 day. Sure profit centers might have gotten a nice boost one month, but guess what, cost centers take a hit for the following two months. I like how people think that because someone paid for 3 months up front, its like the costs of running a daily business is somehow diminished for the following 2 months.

I thought this was pretty obvious to figure out but I'll explain:

Single month subscribers stop paying the same month they quit. Six month subscribers continue paying (for an entire six months) even if they decide to quit the first month. Therefore, people who pay for 6 month subscriptions provide FAR more profit then people who subscribe month to month. Understand? El Psy Congroo

[Yuichi]

Entitlement? Damn right people are entitled to leave feedback on a service they are paying for. Even if it is for the smallest of the small issues like vet rewards. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A 16+ PAGE ISSUE! If you like the vet rewards then just accept them and move on with your life. Some people don't like them and are providing SE with feedback.

Nope just as you guys are "entitled" to leave feedback on a "service you are paying for(even though the rewards are a bonus and NOT I repeat NOT what you are paying for)", we are "entitled" to leave our own feedback saying the opposite. but you seem to be the type of person that is "like what I like or you are wrong" while at the same time talking about individuality and people being entitled to say what they want because they throw money at something(but of course as long as it is something you agree with, if its the opposite then they are not entitled to say anything).

You are right this should not be a 16+ page issue because these are bonus rewards and not what you are paying for.

[ReiszRie]

There is no compelling argument to make. You are crying over something that doesn't even have to be given. It's called looking a gift horse in the mouth. We don't have the right to choose. You and some others are turning this into Occupy Eorzea. It's entitlement and the fact that you choose to deny this and state that there is even a compelling argument to make is ridiculous.

It still isn't a compelling argument, your argument is one of rhetorics and it would have been valid if Rank 7 veteran rewards are the first veteran rewards, the fact that there are preceding veteran rewards sets an expectation of the value a customer is to receive from veteran rewards and the fact that Rank 8 veteran rewards goes back to the trend set by the previous 6 further solidifies our position.

I'd be pissed if the rewards program of a casino i frequent, gives me 50 free hamburgers for a year of spending X amount of money when all previous months, i've been getting stays in a hotel suite. same scenario, when you've set precedence in terms of rewards, you'd naturally set an expectation from your customers.

You might feel indifferent towards the veteran rewards but there are those who values it for what it gives, you might not agree with our protests and you have the rights to either ignore or participate in the discussion but if you wish to disagree, the onus is on you to provide a compelling argument on why we should suck it up and not have expectations from a rewards program created by the devs and with expectations of the reward value set by the devs or perhaps simply to provide a compelling argument as to why 50 free teleport is appropriate for a Rank 7 reward when you get a Behemoth mount and GC leader minion for Rank 6

The fact remains that veteran rewards are a marketing strategy implemented to improve sales and pad SE's bottomline, it serves as an incentive to entice players in subscribing to larger chunks of game time, it really isn't an innocent carebear thank you gesture as what you've been trying to portray it as. Digital in game items bears minimum cost for SE to implement and our feedback on what players who subscribes 180 days at a time wants and expects from the veteran rewards are invaluable in strengthening their marketing strategy.

We are not mindlessly ranting here, we have put out our arguments, its in your ball-court now.

[Doo]

It's funny how we view "Free" in terms of video game extras.

Like if they take out a DD class in the game and then give it to you as something "Free". Is it really free?

When Bioware takes out game content and puts it in the form of dlc and then gives it to you free if you pre order, is that really free?

In conclusion, nothing is FREE, it's whether or not the devs want to put it in or not.

[C-croft]

I thought this was pretty obvious to figure out but I'll explain:

Single month subscribers stop paying the same month they quit. Six month subscribers continue paying (for an entire six months) even if they decide to quit the first month. Therefore, people who pay for 6 month subscriptions provide FAR more profit then people who subscribe month to month. Understand? El Psy Congroo

Wait, so it's SE's fault you(Generally speaking) made an investment in something that didn't play in your favor? I didn't realize that it wasn't my responsibility in regards how I choose to spend my money... Out of curiousity, if you quit before six months, do you lose access or is it a personal choice?