Please Release a Difficult 24-Man

[Balfreid]

I would much rather be challenged in 8-man content. Easier to make groups and communicate.
20+ becomes hell and half the raid ends up getting carried anyways.

[Taruranto]

I would much rather be challenged in 8-man content. Easier to make groups and communicate.
20+ becomes hell and half the raid ends up getting carried anyways.

That's why we have these things called "FC".

[Balfreid]

That's why we have these things called "FC".

Having a FC will still never make up for AFKs, people not showing up, idiot players, idiot leaders ect.
The more people in a FC the more idiots = the harder it is to make a stable group.
Have you ever tried running your own 24man group in an other MMO? It's a pain in the ASS
I will take my 8-man content any day of the week kthx.

[Taruranto]

Having a FC will still never make up for AFKs, people not showing up, idiot players, idiot leaders ect.

So you hate interacting with people. Why are you playing a MMORPG? Call of Duty is right up the angle, few player interactions and mostly phew-phew. No one will bother your with their AFKs and you won't have to deal with idiot leaders!

The more people in a FC the more idiots = the harder it is to make a stable group.

Find a good FC.

Have you ever tried running your own 24man group in an other MMO? It's a pain in the ASS

I've been a part of FFXI endgame for years, a game far less forgiving and that required far more dedication than this and that required an alliance to basically do anything.

I will take my 8-man content any day of the week kthx.

Good thing NO ONE FREACKING FORCES YOU to run 24 man content, eh? You can keep running 8 man and pretend this is some kind of single player jrpg featuring co-op, but some people would like to be able to play with other FCs team, since, you know, this is a "massive multiplayer online game" people should want to play with more people as they can, especially people from their own FC.

[Balfreid]

I've been a part of FFXI endgame for years, a game far less forgiving and that required far more dedication than this and that required an alliance to basically do anything.

I raided in XI since NA launch till early WOG. Did absolutely every content there was to offer in the game. (Dynamis, Sky/Gods, Sea/Jailers, Limbus, 3-Kings, Salvage, Nyzul-Isle, Odin, Dark-Ixion/Worm and ZNM.) Whats your point? Mass player content will only hinder your progression and should be a thing of the past. Outside of CT (Being a Duty Finder Raid) No raid content should be 24man... There just no point to it anymore.

And actually, I am quite a social person Mr. Lalafell. I just really hate idiot players.

[Xatsh]

Having a FC will still never make up for AFKs, people not showing up, idiot players, idiot leaders ect.
The more people in a FC the more idiots = the harder it is to make a stable group.
Have you ever tried running your own 24man group in an other MMO? It's a pain in the ASS
I will take my 8-man content any day of the week kthx.

I have for over 10yrs.

And you know what. FFXIV is the hardest mmo I ever had to organize in my life. It take me 4-5hrs a week to try to get my schedule together where I have exactly the right jobs in the 8 man partys, make sure those people have the same playtimes, and make sure there is enough people with experiance to win. And the crap part is even with all my work... I still have people sitting out every week being forced to party finder it.

For a guild low man IS BAD!!!! For pugs low man is good. It does not matter what your opinion is. but it is easier when running a real guild (not to be mistaken with a static. FCs with 10-12 ppl are not guilds they are statics) when you are able to incorporate the whole guild.