360 Day Veteran Reward - Aetheryte Ticket

[ReiszRie]

It seems that players here are mis-construing the OP's petition.

When you've made it a point to implement a rewards system to reward loyal customers or customers that pays up front as a sign of commitment, you've gotta live up to your promises, if the previous rewards are of any indication, we'v been getting unique items such as minions and mounts or costumes, items that are otherwise unattainable in game.

This time round for a 1 year subscription milestone, they give you 50 free teleports which are pretty much redundant.

Consumables aren't a good veteran reward IMO, as the fact that you can only ever get it once makes it almost certain that players who have it would be inclined to not use it due to its one time use property.

Its like a retail store offering a unique limited edition collectible every month you've been a loyal customer spending X sum of money and at the 1 year mark, it gives you a $1 off coupon instead.

[Yukiko]

(..) as the fact that you can only ever get it once makes it almost certain that players who have it would be inclined to not use it due to its one time use property. (..)

You need some of those unique 1.x stuff, which we only gotten once in lifetime?
Just ask me, I can do a screenshot, having everything stored forever not willing to trade in, use or eat, even when already dated

[Galactimus]

We've been getting unique items such as minions and mounts or costumes, items that are otherwise unattainable in game. This time round for a 1 year subscription milestone, they give you 50 free teleports which are pretty much redundant.

This sums up my side of the argument perfectly. Veteran Rewards were NOT implemented as free "Thank you" items like some people seem to think. They shouldn't even be called rewards; they are "Veteran Incentives." They were designed for the sole purpose of giving players incentive to purchase larger chunks of subscription time. It has nothing to do with entitlement. They offer players items they can't get in-game because they know these items will get some players to subscribe to higher priced subscription models (ie. 6 month chunks.) If these players quit after 1-3 months SE still has their huge 6 month subscription fee in their pocket; and all they had to do was offer them the ability to unlock a mount they probably won't use much.


These Aetheryte Tickets are not going to sell any 6 month subscriptions (the Odin Minion might.) It's not unique, cool, or even useful for most players that have already played for 6 months. It just seems like they should have offered us something else as a one year reward just so they could sell more subscriptions (especially from a marketing perspective.) So why not change the reward? They'd make the players on one-side of this argument a lot happier and make more money in the process. As such, it makes no sense why people would defend such a poor "Veteran Incentive" item.

[Wings]

This sums up my side of the argument perfectly. Veteran Rewards were NOT implemented as free "Thank you" items like some people seem to think. They shouldn't even be called rewards; they are "Veteran Incentives."

Hah! My situation exactly. When I first heard about the aetheryte ticket, I thought it more likely that it would be something special and exciting, not a one-time consumeable like the description fuzzily indicated, and was thinking of upping my subscription from 90 to 180 days. After learning it's a stack of 50 tickets, I changed my mind and decided to stick with a 90 day sub. A minion isn't incentive enough to change it. It's not that I won't be playing half a year from now, I defiently will, I'm just putting off the time when that stack will clog up my inventory space.

I support OP's petition.

[ReplicaX]

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We have multiple payments options for a reason. If you are basing them off receiving an in game veteran reward faster and not for the real point of the payment options, that is entirely your fault.

If you pay for 6 months and quit a month in, its your fault. You had the option to pay month to month.

Your basis to the system is for ppl to buy larger chunks of time. I look at it differently, as ppl can pay month to month and get the reward at a later date.

The player has the option, they are not being forced.

[Galactimus]

"That is entirely your fault." "Its your fault." "They are not being forced" "yAwn" etc.

It's still a marketing ploy; plain and simple. And it works to great success. Mounts like the "Behemoth" are guaranteed to sell larger subscriptions. People will choose a longer sub to obtain them. That's the whole point of these items. I'm not even sure why you're throwing around the word "fault." General gamers love "cool in-game stuff" and are willing to pay for it.

Your basis to the system is for ppl to buy larger chunks of time. I look at it differently, as ppl can pay month to month and get the reward at a later date.

That's not the point. They took all of these items out of the game (Mounts, Minions, etc) and slapped a "Veteran Reward" tag on them. Why? So people can graciously obtain them one month at a time? That's awful nice of them but, no. These items are selling larger subscriptions. If these were meant to be "month to month" items then they should have been left in the game. Instead, they can make $$$ on them this way; and that's perfectly fine. But don't say that's not what these items are for. It's the same reason why Collector's Editions even exist.

[BloodPact]

That's not the point. They took all of these items out of the game (Mounts, Minions, etc) and slapped a "Veteran Reward" tag on them. Why? So people can graciously obtain them one month at a time? That's awful nice of them but, no. These items are selling larger subscriptions. If these were meant to be "month to month" items then they should have been left in the game. Instead, they can make $$$ on them this way; and that's perfectly fine. But don't say that's not what these items are for. It's the same reason why Collector's Editions even exist.

Huh? They didn't take anything out of the game. They've been rewarded through subscription since the first day of service. How are they selling higher subscriptions? When I pay for the 12th month of play in game, I'll get the rewards for that time. Now, you probably mean the desperate people who need to have everything yesterday. Those? Well, as it goes like almost in every aspect of business, if you want something early, you have to pay the price for it. If they stop playing before their subscription expires, their problem as it was their decision, no one but their need to have it instantly forced them to do that.

[Galactimus]

If they stop playing before their subscription expires, that's their problem as it was their decision, no one but their need to have it instantly forced them to do that.

I'm not even defending whether the choice to subscribe longer just for a shiny item is right or wrong. I don't care if its a good or bad decision to obtain these items early and stop playing before your sub expires. The only point I'm trying to make is that SE puts these kinds of items up as "Veteran Rewards" for the sole purpose of selling longer subscriptions.

It works, its fine, and that's awesome! However, if you think these are free "Thank You" items with absolutely no marketing agenda behind them then I can only recommend an Esuna spell and plenty of rest. It's a business making money; otherwise these "free items" should have been included in the game with no subscription restriction attached.

They are offering Veteran Incentives and the Atheryte Tickets are extremely poor ones. I'm just pointing out that people are willing to pay to get items early and that a better incentive would have made them more $$$ (and made people happier.)

[BloodPact]

...if you think these are free "Thank You" items with absolutely no marketing agenda behind them then I can only recommend an Esuna spell and plenty of rest. It's a business making money; otherwise these "free items" should have been included in the game with no subscription restriction attached.

They are offering Veteran Incentives and the Atheryte Tickets are extremely poor ones. I'm just pointing out that people are willing to pay to get items early and that a better incentive would have made them more $$$ (and made people happier.)

... Is there any company out there that gives out free stuff/incentives/whatever-you-want-to-call-it and not doing with the purpose you described above? It's a business, of course they are doing it to keep you happy, and strengthen your business with them. When you go to the supermarket and they have free samples of food for people at the deli section, when you buy a new software at a tech store and they give you a 5$ credit, it's all the same.

And about your ->>> opinion <<<- on the tickets not being as worthy as the previous rewards. I disagree, I think they'll have more use than the minion you'll summon for three days and then completely forget until you check your profile and see it in the list. But you didn't see me complaining about it for these past three veteran rewards. I collected them (not mandatory, also, btw), and moved on, speculating about what the next reward would be.

[XiaoliVorgan]

We have multiple payments options for a reason. If you are basing them off receiving an in game veteran reward faster and not for the real point of the payment options, that is entirely your fault.

If you pay for 6 months and quit a month in, its your fault. You had the option to pay month to month.

Your basis to the system is for ppl to buy larger chunks of time. I look at it differently, as ppl can pay month to month and get the reward at a later date.

The player has the option, they are not being forced.

Its still a option, and saying yours is the better is neither here nor there. People feel different and not everyone buys their time amount for the same reasons. The people who -did- buy their time to get the incentives however, have a hinky feel for this particular item. I think the lesson here is, don't expect ubersauce.