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  1. #101
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    I love that people that disagree with the petition are bumping it, instead of ignoring it and letting it die.

    imo: SE decided to give Vet rewards, so they should do it right and give things worth giving. No one wants coal in their stocking for christmas ... but then we should be glad we got something, right?
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  2. #102
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everdark View Post
    I love that people that disagree with the petition are bumping it, instead of ignoring it and letting it die.
    Think about what you just said.

    No one disagrees and ignores the thread. Thread is full of nothing but agreement and support.

    Followed by your opinion, being a mix of disagreement and agreement thus bumping the thread anyway.
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiszRie View Post
    We've been getting unique items such as minions and mounts or costumes, items that are otherwise unattainable in game. This time round for a 1 year subscription milestone, they give you 50 free teleports which are pretty much redundant.

    This sums up my side of the argument perfectly. Veteran Rewards were NOT implemented as free "Thank you" items like some people seem to think. They shouldn't even be called rewards; they are "Veteran Incentives." They were designed for the sole purpose of giving players incentive to purchase larger chunks of subscription time. It has nothing to do with entitlement. They offer players items they can't get in-game because they know these items will get some players to subscribe to higher priced subscription models (ie. 6 month chunks.) If these players quit after 1-3 months SE still has their huge 6 month subscription fee in their pocket; and all they had to do was offer them the ability to unlock a mount they probably won't use much.


    These Aetheryte Tickets are not going to sell any 6 month subscriptions (the Odin Minion might.) It's not unique, cool, or even useful for most players that have already played for 6 months. It just seems like they should have offered us something else as a one year reward just so they could sell more subscriptions (especially from a marketing perspective.) So why not change the reward? They'd make the players on one-side of this argument a lot happier and make more money in the process. As such, it makes no sense why people would defend such a poor "Veteran Incentive" item.
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    Last edited by Galactimus; 03-19-2014 at 10:00 PM.

  4. #104
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    I know personal preferences vary but to me it does seem like the 30-day reward is way more substantial than the 1 year one.

    Maybe at least put the 2-year reward to be another free aetheryte location or a special fishing rod or a mount. Something that stays.

    It's not that I don't appreciate the perk but it seems LESS than the previous rewards and let's not forget how much more money one year is compared to just 30 days.
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  5. #105
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    Actually, I'll make more use of those tickets than I ever will of the retarded Ahriman or Behemoth mounts. It's something useful for a change. Let's face it, a new minon that people will just call out until the next event/quest brings the new default?
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    This sums up my side of the argument perfectly. Veteran Rewards were NOT implemented as free "Thank you" items like some people seem to think. They shouldn't even be called rewards; they are "Veteran Incentives."
    Hah! My situation exactly. When I first heard about the aetheryte ticket, I thought it more likely that it would be something special and exciting, not a one-time consumeable like the description fuzzily indicated, and was thinking of upping my subscription from 90 to 180 days. After learning it's a stack of 50 tickets, I changed my mind and decided to stick with a 90 day sub. A minion isn't incentive enough to change it. It's not that I won't be playing half a year from now, I defiently will, I'm just putting off the time when that stack will clog up my inventory space.

    I support OP's petition.
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
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    We have multiple payments options for a reason. If you are basing them off receiving an in game veteran reward faster and not for the real point of the payment options, that is entirely your fault.

    If you pay for 6 months and quit a month in, its your fault. You had the option to pay month to month.

    Your basis to the system is for ppl to buy larger chunks of time. I look at it differently, as ppl can pay month to month and get the reward at a later date.

    The player has the option, they are not being forced.
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galactimus View Post
    This sums up my side of the argument perfectly. Veteran Rewards were NOT implemented as free "Thank you" items like some people seem to think. They shouldn't even be called rewards; they are "Veteran Incentives."

    As such, it makes no sense why people would defend such a poor "Veteran Incentive" item.
    QFT.

    I think people arguing otherwise are being a little naive about the purpose of these incentives.

    They aren't wholly a pat on the back for sticking with the game. They also form part of a pretty nifty marketing scheme to make people want to keep playing. This thread isn't in retaliation of that agenda (SE is, after all, a business). It is a request that SE stick with the original idea of Vet Rewards; that these should be significant, meaningful and something to look forward to.

    Making something that is already available in the game free, 50 times, is neither significant or meaningful.
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    Maybe they give you a ticket for a free relic weapon of your choice lol i know wishful thinking :P
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  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balfreid View Post
    So, you are petitioning for something you get for "Free" because the Devs want to give players
    stuff to show they are happy for you subscribing? You do realize they can easily just not care and give us nothing.
    Last I checked you get nothing for being subscribed in WoW and a lot of other MMO's. Stop the whining.
    I'm bemused by the number of people who consider vet rewards to be "free".

    360 days after purchasing the game for $20, you've spent $155.88. Everything that you experience as part of playing FFXIV has cost you $175.88.

    Stop kidding yourself that SE have some kind of seperate budget for Vet Rewards. These are all paid for by your sub.

    SE encourage you to keep subscribing by offering you incentives based on how much you've paid. It is not unreasonable to ask that these incentives be half-decent considering you've paid the best part of $200 to play for your first year.
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