360 Day Veteran Reward - Aetheryte Ticket

[BloodPact]

I'm bemused by the number of people who consider vet rewards to be "free".

360 days after purchasing the game for $20, you've spent $155.88. Everything that you experience as part of playing FFXIV has cost you $175.88.

Stop kidding yourself that SE have some kind of seperate budget for Vet Rewards. These are all paid for by your sub.

SE encourage you to keep subscribing by offering you incentives based on how much you've paid. It is not unreasonable to ask that these incentives be half-decent considering you've paid the best part of $200 to play for your first year.

The veteran rewards are indeed "free"; and with that, I mean that they are not part of what you pay for. You pay for access to FFXIV's server and to have X amounts of slots to create characters and interact with the game. In the contract, it doesn't say, that I am aware of, that you are entitled to these perks every x amount of time, and the kind of perks they will be. Like many have said here, it's just a token of appreciation for paying for the game. I just got my behemoth mount; i know that people went ahead and payed way in advance to start riding it as soon as it was announced. That was their decision because they wanted that item earlier. The way it was intended was as a token of thanks for sticking with the game, although, or course, they also did it knowing that some people would just pay in advance for them.

[Galactimus]

"That is entirely your fault." "Its your fault." "They are not being forced" "yAwn" etc.

It's still a marketing ploy; plain and simple. And it works to great success. Mounts like the "Behemoth" are guaranteed to sell larger subscriptions. People will choose a longer sub to obtain them. That's the whole point of these items. I'm not even sure why you're throwing around the word "fault." General gamers love "cool in-game stuff" and are willing to pay for it.

Your basis to the system is for ppl to buy larger chunks of time. I look at it differently, as ppl can pay month to month and get the reward at a later date.

That's not the point. They took all of these items out of the game (Mounts, Minions, etc) and slapped a "Veteran Reward" tag on them. Why? So people can graciously obtain them one month at a time? That's awful nice of them but, no. These items are selling larger subscriptions. If these were meant to be "month to month" items then they should have been left in the game. Instead, they can make $$$ on them this way; and that's perfectly fine. But don't say that's not what these items are for. It's the same reason why Collector's Editions even exist.

[Mirakell]

I'm quite happy with the rewards we've been given, it's a little added bonus to playing a game that you enjoy. However as said a few time here, if they are handing out rewards, I'd rather it be an item that won't vanish after a few uses. This is to mark a year of subbing to a game and compared to the other rewards it just seems a little meh.

That said, I am quite happy to take them and just hug into my little odin instead :3

[XiaoliVorgan]

We have multiple payments options for a reason. If you are basing them off receiving an in game veteran reward faster and not for the real point of the payment options, that is entirely your fault.

If you pay for 6 months and quit a month in, its your fault. You had the option to pay month to month.

Your basis to the system is for ppl to buy larger chunks of time. I look at it differently, as ppl can pay month to month and get the reward at a later date.

The player has the option, they are not being forced.

Its still a option, and saying yours is the better is neither here nor there. People feel different and not everyone buys their time amount for the same reasons. The people who -did- buy their time to get the incentives however, have a hinky feel for this particular item. I think the lesson here is, don't expect ubersauce.

[SLeonhart]

The veteran rewards are indeed "free"; and with that, I mean that they are not part of what you pay for. You pay for access to FFXIV's server and to have X amounts of slots to create characters and interact with the game. In the contract, it doesn't say, that I am aware of, that you are entitled to these perks every x amount of time, and the kind of perks they will be. Like many have said here, it's just a token of appreciation for paying for the game. I just got my behemoth mount; i know that people went ahead and payed way in advance to start riding it as soon as it was announced. That was their decision because they wanted that item earlier. The way it was intended was as a token of thanks for sticking with the game, although, or course, they also did it knowing that some people would just pay in advance for them.

I have a simple, straightforward question for you:

Can I get Veteran Rewards without paying my subscription?

[SendohJin]

They could just stop sending vet rewards, but then people will complain about that too. There are no costs to these awards, regardless of what they are. You get what you are given. If they want to mail us a duece with flies in our moogleboxes, they can do so. At least the tickets will get some use. Not only that, with an expansion due at sometime, maybe these tickets will have greater value.

the first 3 set of rewards were every 30 days, that changed to every 90 days, nobody complained about that. i wouldn't complain if they changed it to every 180 days or even every 360 days. they should just do it right when they do it.

I think the lesson here is, don't expect ubersauce.

i don't think anyone does. lots of people just want the equivalent to the 30, 90 or 270 day rewards (another Fantasia or a mount). Mounts have a quantifiable price in the game, 120k gil for each Beastmen Mount, 50 teleports won't hit a quarter of that. Fantasia are nearly priceless for the people who want them, let us put them on the market board and we'll see how valuable they really are.

[XiaoliVorgan]

i don't think anyone does. lots of people just want the equivalent to the 30, 90 or 270 day rewards (another Fantasia or a mount). Mounts have a quantifiable price in the game, 120k gil for each Beastmen Mount, 50 teleports won't hit a quarter of that. Fantasia are nearly priceless for the people who want them, let us put them on the market board and we'll see how valuable they really are.

I totally get it, but I was saying don't expect ubersauce because SEs track record for awesome surprises turning out to be a fart in a box have been common. *coughcough* housing *coughcough*

[BloodPact]

That's not the point. They took all of these items out of the game (Mounts, Minions, etc) and slapped a "Veteran Reward" tag on them. Why? So people can graciously obtain them one month at a time? That's awful nice of them but, no. These items are selling larger subscriptions. If these were meant to be "month to month" items then they should have been left in the game. Instead, they can make $$$ on them this way; and that's perfectly fine. But don't say that's not what these items are for. It's the same reason why Collector's Editions even exist.

Huh? They didn't take anything out of the game. They've been rewarded through subscription since the first day of service. How are they selling higher subscriptions? When I pay for the 12th month of play in game, I'll get the rewards for that time. Now, you probably mean the desperate people who need to have everything yesterday. Those? Well, as it goes like almost in every aspect of business, if you want something early, you have to pay the price for it. If they stop playing before their subscription expires, their problem as it was their decision, no one but their need to have it instantly forced them to do that.

[BloodPact]

I have a simple, straightforward question for you:

Can I get Veteran Rewards without paying my subscription?

If you reread what you just posted and it still makes sense to you, then there is no reason to continue this discussion.

[Tahldon]

I have a simple, straightforward question for you:

Can I get Veteran Rewards without paying my subscription?

It wouldn't be a "Veteran Reward" then. I feel as though you're just being upset about this for the sheer sake of being upset. As I said on the first page, we could just be paying, and not getting any rewards at all. You pay to play the game, that's the exchange of service, Veteran Rewards are literally just "Thank You" items for subscribing to the game for so long.

It's a customer loyalty thing, just like Best Buy, Famous Footwear, Gamestop, and any other business that provides a "loyalty" program. They don't have to do it because you're already conducting business with them in the first place, but they do as an incentive to get you to play more and to keep coming back to them.

It's a virtual token of appreciation. What's this big fuss even about? Just make a suggestion thread saying "Dear Devs, could we possibly have [item here] as a veteran's reward one of these days? It'd be awesome!" whereas there's this big rigmarole involving a petition to change something that the devs have already coordinated in their plans and what-have-you.

In short, it's not that serious. It's a customer loyalty program, don't like what this round consists of? Send a suggestion. All this petitioning isn't necessary. More importantly, elaborate a possible item that you'd like to see and not throw a vague "I just want -something-" out there because technically, free teleport tokens count as "something".