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  1. 03-18-2014 10:24 AM

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    Delenia Forcentis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
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    But the fact is you won't need to min-max even for Leviathan. Prepare yourself, Leviathan requiring iLevel 77 or so minimum to enter via DF.

    It really does not matter. If people needed BiS set to even attempt Leviathan, you can be sure nobody will do it - it's going to lock out people, and that's against Yoshida's principle of accessibility for everyone. The only reason I don't have BiS at this point is RNG - I have not seen the Allagan Choker of Earrings of Fending drop once, ever since I set foot into Coil.

    iLevel is more than good enough for any encounter in this game. You can probably tank Twintania in full Allagan or full Myth gear as well, all you need to do is hit the Accuracy cap (482 after food), and you're good to go. BiS should never be a minimum standard for a fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    You never go into a fight unprepared. Min/maxing is always important at all parts of the game. Sure, you can survive without doing that, but every little bit you do is always a plus. Everyone is aware that there will be a new BiS for all sets, but like I had stated before, you would probably need the second best BiS (or older Bis) first to reach that point. T1-T5 are not being nerf, they're just be opened up.
    The first thing you need to know about BiS in the current state of the game is that it's all based on min/maxing secondary stats. Now, you may think to yourself "Well, that's worth it, right? With enough secondary stats you could reach a threshold that allows you to do things you otherwise couldn't!" - which is a completely valid thought process to have. However, what you need to realize before I go any further is that no equipment in the game has enough points in secondary stats that it actually ends up making any sort of definable difference. As an example since we're talking about PLD - min/max Parry PLD set vs max accuracy, lowest Parry PLD set. The min/max set parries roughly 1-3% more.

    From there, you might think "Well, that's very very little, but I might as well have it, right?" - and it's true, if you happen to get all the pieces then you SHOULD use the min/max set. But something important to note is that you can beat T5, easily, in the bare minimum set and MOST of your current BiS set is RNG drops from Coil 1-5 so that means you'll not only be relying on luck, but also sinking a large amount of time into those turns. Even when they're repeatable and you can farm them infinitely, you'll still be spending a massive amount of time trying to get current BiS when you could already be in T6 getting BETTER gear and progressing even further.

    So you need to ask yourself - is it REALLY worth stressing over a BiS set that won't ACTUALLY make T6-9 any easier, all of which will be replaced almost immediately?
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  4. 03-18-2014 03:18 PM

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    Fudo Myoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivi_Bushido View Post
    The current BiS is always going to remain a factor when approaching newer, and more difficult content.

    And lastly, here's another thought. What if you happen to make it all the way to turn 9? It's probably because the current BiS gear you're wearing could have been more then capable of carrying you that far! Now you have the stratification of knowing that you're capable of doing all the new turns without trouble! When in turn, that would make you very grateful that you got that gear in the first place!
    They want new coil to be like going into old coil... pretty safe to say new crafting gear is gona be ilvl90 and if thats ture old bis will be worth less then that in absolute min/maxing. Secondly if you only starting bis now its irrelevant because even with the new loot rules you you prob have enough to get new gear with new tomb stones so just get ilvl 90 whatever you can and be prepared to replace all in a few weeks.
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