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    caped is the way to go, and the polls are so far showing it. caps have nothing to do with inventory any more, if u played ffxi u know they added ways for gear to level down with the players and that works perfectly.

    and caps don't remove freedoms, it adds freedoms. and if didn't well then shackle my ass and hall me away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeble View Post
    and caps don't remove freedoms, it adds freedoms. and if didn't well then shackle my ass and hall me away.
    In this case you are right. If you would want to do the mid-rank dungeon in it's prime which is by playing at recommended level, these are the outcomes:

    Without cap = "Hey, I don't want to clear this dungeon so easy, but

    1. The class(es) I would like to play as is(are) fully capped.
    2. I don't want to play with the ones I have at mid-rank.
    3. I don't have any mid-rank class, only higher ones."

    With cap = "I can choose any class I want to play as that is either mid-rank or over."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petori View Post
    In this case you are right. If you would want to do the mid-rank dungeon in it's prime which is by playing at recommended level, these are the outcomes:

    Without cap = "Hey, I don't want to clear this dungeon so easy, but

    1. The class(es) I would like to play as is(are) fully capped.
    2. I don't want to play with the ones I have at mid-rank.
    3. I don't have any mid-rank class, only higher ones."

    With cap = "I can choose any class I want to play as that is either mid-rank or over."
    but it does remove a freedom, it removes the freedom of doing the job uncapped if you wanted to do that

    and more people will have jobs at or below the cap then ALL jobs over the cap
    so who gets hurt more by it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    but it does remove a freedom, it removes the freedom of doing the job uncapped if you wanted to do that

    and more people will have jobs at or below the cap then ALL jobs over the cap
    so who gets hurt more by it?
    First one has a point but I don't really get the second one.

    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    then if all your classes are ranked play the 50 dungeon why waste you time with a rank 25 dungeon.
    Maybe for the experience and fun? <_< Which this game currently lacks pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petori View Post
    First one has a point but I don't really get the second one.



    Maybe for the experience and fun? <_< Which this game currently lacks pretty much.
    its simple actualy, if ALL your jobs over over 50 you shouldnt care about lower dungeons

    you should be asking for more higher dungeons instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    its simple actualy, if ALL your jobs over over 50 you shouldnt care about lower dungeons

    you should be asking for more higher dungeons instead
    Why shouldn't they? It's 1 of the 2 major contents we have gotten in 9 months and they should not enjoy it how it was supposed to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petori View Post
    Why shouldn't they? It's 1 of the 2 major contents we have gotten in 9 months and they should not enjoy it how it was supposed to?
    its not "how its supposed to"
    its how "you want us to"

    theres a BIG difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    its simple actualy, if ALL your jobs over over 50 you shouldnt care about lower dungeons

    you should be asking for more higher dungeons instead
    Again not everything is about YOU. If all your classes are at 50 but you want to help a friend lower level without ruining the learning experience and the challenge for them, what do you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Again not everything is about YOU. If all your classes are at 50 but you want to help a friend lower level without ruining the learning experience and the challenge for them, what do you do?
    if you are 50 running a 25 through the dungeon you ARE ruining the challenge and learning experience for them. you cut out the whole point of GROUP content by having them clear things without an actual group. If you just want to be run through dungeons by higher level ppl thats lame.
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    Last edited by Azurus; 06-23-2011 at 04:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra View Post
    Again not everything is about YOU. If all your classes are at 50 but you want to help a friend lower level without ruining the learning experience and the challenge for them, what do you do?
    no its not all about me

    apperently its all about YOU
    and how YOU want to make others experience the content

    if YOU want to do it at 30, do it at 30

    but you are telling others they have to do it your way, cuz thats how YOU want them to do it

    YOU dont want them to choose how to do it

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