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  1. #31
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    Well, you said there isn't a downside, but SE's competitors can use the information. Also there is their stock price for them to worry about. lol. That's just the beginning of the downsides. I would see a firestorm of criticism, pessimism, and a snowball effect happening. Probably not the best move for them to make, although I am dying to know. The writing's on the wall though.
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    With this, you just want to do damage with no real reason and to be able to say "See!, I told you this is not working, so start listening to my suggestions now!".

    Also, I find it funny how some people are calling 1.18 (The STARTING POINT of the battle system changes) the redeeming patch for SE. Some of you are expecting too much. Me? I am expecting exactly what has been detailed: introduction of AA, two (2) dungeons, additional quests, more info on companies, etc. Not a game changing patch.

    At the end of Summer, as Yoshida indicated in his letter, he will outline the long term plan. And only then, will I start thinking about redeeming content.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    With this, you just want to do damage with no real reason and to be able to say "See!, I told you this is not working, so start listening to my suggestions now!".

    Also, I find it funny how some people are calling 1.18 (The STARTING POINT of the battle system changes) the redeeming patch for SE. Some of you are expecting too much. Me? I am expecting exactly what has been detailed: introduction of AA, two (2) dungeons, additional quests, more info on companies, etc. Not a game changing patch.

    At the end of Summer, as Yoshida indicated in his letter, he will outline the long term plan. And only then, will I start thinking about redeeming content.
    I don't want to do damage. I think this game is amazing and lots of people play it. I just don't understand why everyone on the forums are so negative all the time and I think by showing that lots of people play some of the negativity would disappear with people realizing that many people enjoy the amazing awesome game.
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  4. #34
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    I think this game is amazing and lots of people play it.
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    Stop taking those pills.
    I mean, you can't be serious, are you? Do you really believe SE removed the /sea all command to... I don't know... lower server load or something?

    Azury, we *DO* have rough estimates of player numbers, and we know for sure numbers were in a steady decline since October. We *DO* know that FFXIV has been in Gamestop's bargain bin for quite a few months now. And we *DO* know that even SE admits that their game is not worth paying for. Can't you draw a simple sensible conclusion?

    It's still far, far too early to release official player numbers. Maybe in half a year, after the majority of system and content patches is finished. But never-ever would I show current player numbers to the public now!
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    Last edited by Rinsui; 06-22-2011 at 06:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I think [...] lots of people play it.
    I am really sorry, but there is no scale whatever on which the current FFXIV population can be qualified as 'a lot'. The population is at most low and at worst dying.

    Of course between a 'low population game' and a 'dying game', you may have your own opinion, as well as on the game quality.

    But saying that the game has a decent population would be denying every figures, observations or actions from SE since its release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I thought this dev team had implemented changes that were turning the game around?

    If no one is coming back to play with all the changes then isn't that pretty well admitting the game is dead?

    I don't think thats true. I mean a lot of people say they see lots of people on their server. So it shouldn't be fuel for trolls if the game has a healthy population like many people on here argue it does.

    Unless the game really is dead.....
    I haven't quoted your second post, because there is no point, but you directly negate and contradict yourself.

    You say you love this game and then you say the game is dead, and then you say you want proof.

    Why?

    You love it, play it? Why do you care so much about who else is playing it?

    Give me a solid reason for you wanting to see server stats and I will accept your request as valid, otherwise just give it up.
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    I haven't quoted your second post, because there is no point, but you directly negate and contradict yourself.

    You say you love this game and then you say the game is dead, and then you say you want proof.

    Why?

    You love it, play it? Why do you care so much about who else is playing it?

    Give me a solid reason for you wanting to see server stats and I will accept your request as valid, otherwise just give it up.
    Because I know the game is succeeding and i'm tired of negative nancy's like you consistently bashing it on the forum.

    After this patch the game will be saved and the population will rapidly take off. By showing that, people would be more confident in the dev team and their decisions. By not showing it there is just continued speculation on how much the population has dropped based off biased observations.
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    This is information that will not enhance my quality of playing , /thumbsdown

    Do i think juicy information for gossip for bash or praise on forums is a good thing at the price of stock prices for Se and more money being lost potentially making them they say hay lets scrap this game worth it prob nots!
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    Last edited by ManekiKanji; 06-22-2011 at 07:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Because I know the game is succeeding and i'm tired of negative nancy's like you consistently bashing it on the forum.
    The troll is strong with this one.

    I'll say it again anyways, this information has no impact on my enjoyment of the game and hence I don't want/need this information at this point in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    Because I know the game is succeeding and i'm tired of negative nancy's like you consistently bashing it on the forum.

    After this patch the game will be saved and the population will rapidly take off. By showing that, people would be more confident in the dev team and their decisions. By not showing it there is just continued speculation on how much the population has dropped based off biased observations.
    1) I am not negative towards the game
    2) I asked for a valid reason, this is just pointless self confirmation that the game you are playing is loved by all your Farmville buddies too
    3) As most other posters in this thread have pointed out, they aren't going to be in their office going "work work wor.... WAIT STOP THE PRESSES! SOME DILBERT ON THE FORUMS WANTS STATS NOW! SOD THE STOCKS AND GENERAL CONCENSUS AROUND THE GAME! THIS PLAYER NEEDS TO BE AFFIRMED THAT THE GAME THEY PLAY IS POPULAR!" "I don't care Yoshi, stop everything you are doing and feed that players peen now!".

    Make more sense to you yet?
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