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  1. #541
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    P.S.: Think about it this way.

    If you have uncapped dungeons that drop level-adequate gear, that gear becomes obsolete
    once you level up. In FFXI, I *loved* my LV30 Borea Cesti and my LV 50 Cross-Counters
    even @75, because I knew they would serve me well during the CoP Missions (raids),
    Balista and other capped content.

    So by uncapping all content, you basically devaluate a lot of its lasting appeal.
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  2. #542
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Yes. Important point to take away here is that in WoW, there is essentially a pseudo-level cap since most of the raid loot is bound to your character, so you have to play as that character to acquire the items anyway.

    In FF14, since a single character can be multiple classes, using your high rank class to easily farm items for your lower ranked class would ruin game balance.

    This is why the need for level caps in games like FF11 and FF14 is much more necessary than in other MMOs where you can't be every job on one character.

    I completely agree with you Rentahamster. Where other games limit the abuse of plowing through low lvls with equipment that binds, this game cannot. Because of the one character with multiple jobs aspect of ffxiv, drops have to be regulated differently. If a few weeks after dungeons are out everybody is wearing the same gear like it currently is I will be disappointed. Scaling is a necessity in order to achieve what Yoshi-P wants- Sense of Accomplishment. Think of this in terms of the lvl 30 players also. If they have to work hard to get their gear and everyone who has a 50 didn't they will feel no sense of accomplishment.
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  3. #543
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    Adell Raynes
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    I dont have a problem with uncappedness. Even if you use gear as an excuse, its just like taking a high level class and fighting nms for gear for lower leveled classes. Though some lower level gear in this game is useable at 50, not all of it is, and not many people fight cactuar jack at 35 for the elmo. Most people I know brought friends and took high level classes
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  4. #544
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    Meph Nergal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    I dont have a problem with uncappedness. Even if you use gear as an excuse, its just like taking a high level class and fighting nms for gear for lower leveled classes. Though some lower level gear in this game is useable at 50, not all of it is, and not many people fight cactuar jack at 35 for the elmo. Most people I know brought friends and took high level classes
    Because they can, if we were forced to fight it as lvl 35 to get the Elmo it would be more of an accomplishment.
    And i guess that's what ppl who vote for an 'level cap' want with the dungeons.
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    Virtus LS - Ragnarok

  5. #545
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    sense of accomplishment or just an annoyance? You cant decide for everyone what will make them feel accomplished. As for myself it will be taking my high end char into the high end content.

    Im not saying caps should never happen/be optional, but the comparisson is just
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  6. #546
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meph View Post
    Because they can, if we were forced to fight it as lvl 35 to get the Elmo it would be more of an accomplishment
    More of an accomplishment to whom? You or them? I don't understand why other players need to dictate whether I feel accomplished or not.
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  7. #547
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    sense of accomplishment or just an annoyance? You cant decide for everyone what will make them feel accomplished. As for myself it will be taking my high end char into the high end content.

    Im not saying caps should never happen/be optional, but the comparisson is just
    Sorry, but there are more than enough games out there, where you just rush to max level because the game 'starts' at endgame. I want to enjoy the game even in mid-level.
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  8. #548
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meph View Post
    Sorry, but there are more than enough games out there, where you just rush to max level because the game 'starts' at endgame. I want to enjoy the game even in mid-level.
    Then what's stopping you? Not my R50 going into a R30 dungeon.
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  9. #549
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Then what's stopping you? Not my R50 going into a R30 dungeon.
    yes it actually will, because it will be the norm, and people wont want to do it when its a challenge so he wont be able to get a party
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  10. #550
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    yes it actually will, because it will be the norm, and people wont want to do it when its a challenge so he wont be able to get a party
    Yeah, cause everyone wants to enter the dungeons with their R50s even though most the posts on this board prove otherwise. I seriously doubt he won't be able to find people around R30 to do this content.
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