Hardcore MMORPG's would be a massive failure if it was released in today's MMORPG era

[Gramul]

That really doesn't have anything to do with this.

That's why it's called "an aside".

Regardless if you are a game tester or not, the actual product to a consumer shouldn't feel like a second job.

The point being "work" is entirely a matter of perspective. Some people actually like to spend a lot of time on things.

Too be fair, All games are pretty skinner boxes.

You're entirely right. I was more meaning games that hide it less and less. You know all those app games for phones these days. Push button, receive reward. Pay us money so you don't have to wait to push the button again.

I wonder if I could actually sell a game that literally just gives you a colorful star every time you press a button, but it takes longer and longer to recharge so you you can pay me 5 cents to get a free button push.