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  1. #431
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    Then run it with a lvl 30 group. Problem solved.
    I don't have a R30 group.
    If this game's difficulty is dependent on US dicking around with it, we'd all just go around naked with weathered weapons.
    Your logic fails.

    Difficulty is mandated. Not optional.
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  2. #432
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Lowmanning is a mechanism to feed as few mouths as possible and has come to be synonymous with elitism and exclusion. I like that you have to have 8 members.

    Some of the elitist shells are so unpopular that they can't even fill the 8 man roster without boxing because no one can stand them.
    I understand that concern. But elitist shells are going to be elitist shells regardless. Forcing them to take 8 wont solve that to be honest. All it does is hurt LSs who have seen LS numbers dwindle and have trouble summoning 8 members reliably.
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  3. #433
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    I don't have a R30 group.
    If this game's difficulty is dependent on US dicking around with it, we'd all just go around naked with weathered weapons.
    Your logic fails.

    Difficulty is mandated. Not optional.
    I'm sorry that the people on your server don't like to play with you.
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  4. #434
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    I'm sorry that the people on your server don't like to play with you.
    im not, look at who he is
    id be mad too if someone sat there badmouthing all crafters nonstop

  5. #435
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    I understand that concern. But elitist shells are going to be elitist shells regardless. Forcing them to take 8 wont solve that to be honest. All it does is hurt LSs who have seen LS numbers dwindle and have trouble summoning 8 members reliably.
    If you unlock it, R50s will solo the R30 instances. Can't happen from a server resource standpoint.
    If you unlock R50 raids, people will not invite you to run with them. If they need more people to go, they'll be actively looking to complete the party.

    The server would be much more inclusive. Hey we need you, come along. Rather than no gimp. You're just another mouth we don't need.

    Your small shell would have a better time I think this way. Picking up new friends to fill your parties out, and in the process getting new shellmates.

    It's good.
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  6. #436
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    If you unlock it, R50s will solo the R30 instances. Can't happen from a server resource standpoint.
    If you unlock R50 raids, people will not invite you to run with them. If they need more people to go, they'll be actively looking to complete the party.

    The server would be much more inclusive. Hey we need you, come along. Rather than no gimp. You're just another mouth we don't need.

    Your small shell would have a better time I think this way. Picking up new friends to fill your parties out, and in the process getting new shellmates.

    It's good.
    r50s cant solo the r30 dungeon anyway

    so your arguement is moot right then and there

  7. #437
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    Quote Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe View Post
    I'm sorry that the people on your server don't like to play with you.
    Failure of comprehension's a pretty common occurance with your responses.
    I won't have any more R30's left.
    You keep wishing on a star that I'm not popular.
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  8. #438
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    r50s cant solo the r30 dungeon anyway

    so your arguement is moot right then and there
    I could solo the R30 NMs if they unlocked the player requirements, so your input is irrelevant. I can destroy a party of rank 30's as a rank 50.
    So yeah. I'd be soloing the R30 dungeon. Maybe you wouldn't on whatever caliber of conjurer or thaumaturge you have.

    I'm not you. Pretty obvious.
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  9. #439
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    If you unlock it, R50s will solo the R30 instances. Can't happen from a server resource standpoint.
    If you unlock R50 raids, people will not invite you to run with them. If they need more people to go, they'll be actively looking to complete the party.

    The server would be much more inclusive. Hey we need you, come along. Rather than no gimp. You're just another mouth we don't need.

    Your small shell would have a better time I think this way. Picking up new friends to fill your parties out, and in the process getting new shellmates.

    It's good.
    Its possible we'll get more shellmates, we'll see.

    However, in regards to your first point. That would be solved if there was a level cap for R30s.
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  10. #440
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    Failure of comprehension's a pretty common occurance with your responses.
    I won't have any more R30's left.
    You keep wishing on a star that I'm not popular.
    Sad for you.
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