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    Quote Originally Posted by Focant View Post
    What happened to making informed decisions? How can you demand change for something you know nothing about? Isn't experience and familiarity valued over theory and assumptions? Seriously, wait to experience it. See if it's really as bad as you say, and THEN change it. Why change something because you "think" it'll be bad but have no real reason to assume such?

    It's fine to be worried and skeptical and to discuss it as such, but to DEMAND change based on something so insubstantial is just ridiculous.
    I full heartly agree with this! Again the devolpment team shares information with us, and all people do is get on here and flame up the threads with hate! I just dont get it... You want answers then there given too u, and you act like infants that dont get your way. Cmon grow up, show some respect for the people that are working around the damn clock. "Not literarlly". So dont try to throw that in my face, thx. Moving on, this is amazing information to get and im very excited to get any new content to the game. For all the people that keep flaming SE, lets see u make a epic MMO that has all the elements u see working. Then take some hard critisim for all your hard work, and i promise u will change your tone! Again i say heres to being optimistic, and thank you SE for your hard work and understanding through these changes. I am a fanboy, and i will stand behind SE until they are no longer around. I wont bite the hand that feeds me. I will be loyal, and understanding. If i ever feel the other way, i will walk away and not look back. I wouldnt leave hate, and flame the devolpers about the game. Maybe thats just me being humble, and knowing my place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    No?

    This is exactly the problem. We should have been demanding change months ago. Not now or after the content is added. This needs to be demanded now. Nothing will make people quit a game faster than not being able to do content because they don't have enough members due to requirements like that.
    you know thats the funniest part of these threads

    the issue of the party size "requirement" is so much bigger then capping the dungeons

    yet people are more worried about wether or not a 50 will go in and do the dungeon easier for gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    you know thats the funniest part of these threads

    the issue of the party size "requirement" is so much bigger then capping the dungeons

    yet people are more worried about wether or not a 50 will go in and do the dungeon easier for gear
    I'm worried about both, but the focus of my rage is more important on the requirement issue for now. Both are bad ideas by the developers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    I'm worried about both, but the focus of my rage is more important on the requirement issue for now. Both are bad ideas by the developers.

    Just my 2 cents on the whole party requirement issue

    First im on a weird Playtime since i am in Brazil so when i play on a bit of both NA(east) and Jpn primetimes.

    I dont think its a bad idea fomr the developers

    This party requirement is another attempt from SE to "force" people to actually "mmo"(i use it as a verb for getting to know people , NEW people, and actually try to get toguether for stuff)... Same as with their early attempts of the market(wich failed but thats another thread.. or several actually)

    Its based on an eastern mentality (again my parents are both asians from there so yeah i do know a bit about their mentality) that people WILL try to again mmo to get stuff done or in this case complete a party for the dungeons.

    So they are trying even though as like everything else they tryed to force on the player base to connect it might fail badly.

    Specially on the western gamers wich IMO are much more self centered or ls centered or even small group of friends centered and have a really hard time connecting outside their group of friends.


    Fun fact : even with all the bad stuff one of their "attempts" the party search system actually works wonders on jpn prime time if you ever tryed it. It fills entire levepartys in matters of seconds of searching on these times. why doesent it work on NA baffles me. I always get my leves done in a couple hours on jpn prime time even with half of them not accepting me(JP onry) because theres plenty... again with the dwindling server population and all. No wonder jpn want their own servers lol

    PS im sry about my spelling english is not my main language ^^ also its not my intention to attack anyone just my take on the different cultures i learned form this + 6 years of ffxi
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    Last edited by Toffy; 06-22-2011 at 07:29 AM. Reason: making myself clearer and spelling

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    There is going to be grumbling either way: level cap or no level cap. If you want a challenge then do the one appropriate for you. But believe me, if there was a level cap, just like most of the CoP missions people would complain about that. It has already happened in the past, and people were upset. People will always be upset. Can't please everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volsung View Post
    There is going to be grumbling either way: level cap or no level cap. If you want a challenge then do the one appropriate for you. But believe me, if there was a level cap, just like most of the CoP missions people would complain about that. It has already happened in the past, and people were upset. People will always be upset. Can't please everyone.
    I personally disagree. I don't see a legitimate reason to NOT have a cap.

    "I am rank 50 so it should be easy if I want"

    Then go kill rank 30 monsters, but, your not getting SP or gear for it.
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    Self-centeredness: own opinion = fact, the rest is bull****
    That's the reason why I should really just stick to dev posts only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gidonoidon_Sur View Post
    I personally disagree. I don't see a legitimate reason to NOT have a cap.

    "I am rank 50 so it should be easy if I want"

    Then go kill rank 30 monsters, but, your not getting SP or gear for it.
    As I understand it a rank 50 would not get SP in this dungeon (because there's no cap) and the gear is mid-level stuff. What's the issue exactly? It's content meant for mid-level players to do and find challenging. If a rank 50 wants to get some buddies together and steamroll the dungeon then whatever, that's a challenge and fun they've missed out on. This should, however, have NO effect on your own enjoyment of the content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Focant View Post
    If a rank 50 wants to get some buddies together and steamroll the dungeon then whatever, that's a challenge and fun they've missed out on.
    I am totally fine with that being an option, as long as they don't get any good/rare items for steamrolling the dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    I am totally fine with that being an option, as long as they don't get any good/rare items for steamrolling the dungeon.
    they can get the same 30 gear you can get at 30
    if they want the better stuff they can go do the 50 dungeon

    as we have stated SEVERAL times before but you just dont seem to understand that concept

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