Confirmation of Uncapped Raids. Confirmation of a terrible decision.

[Archadius]

and level capping people wont change anything either

its the same concept the difference being 1 is already implemented and the other will require more programming to add in, time and work that could be put somewhere more needed

a difficulty slider would be the perfect thing for people who want more challenge(it makes the mobs their rank after all)

Uhhhh... I didn't say ANYTHING about capping/uncapping. I am just against difficulty sliders in general. Those things are horrid. If we are going to have any sort of scaling difficulty, it needs to be in the form of strategy, NOT the way that levequest difficulty is currently handled.

[TheVedis]

Uhhhh... I didn't say ANYTHING about capping/uncapping. I am just against difficulty sliders in general. Those things are horrid. If we are going to have any sort of scaling difficulty, it needs to be in the form of strategy, NOT the way that levequest difficulty is currently handled.

adding a level cap doesnt promote strategy though
ill still have ALL my high level abilities

the difference between a slider and a cap is, with a cap, you FORCE people to play at that difficulty and level
with a slider you give them the option to make it harder if they WANT the challenge, without forcing people who just wanna do it to comform to that standard

[Archadius]

adding a level cap doesnt promote strategy though
ill still have ALL my high level abilities

the difference between a slider and a cap is, with a cap, you FORCE people to play at that difficulty and level
with a slider you give them the option to make it harder if they WANT the challenge, without forcing people who just wanna do it to comform to that standard

LMFAO! Again you are trying to pin on me that I have apparently stated I'm for/against a level cap. I simply say that a difficulty slider is NOT the way (because SE will just replicate the levequest slider). Quote the piece of text where I suggested a level cap would solve the difficulty issue.

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...Find it?

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...didn't think so. Doesn't exist.

We need something that encourages strategic play.

[TheVedis]

LMFAO! Again you are trying to pin on me that I have apparently stated I'm for/against a level cap. I simply say that a difficulty slider is NOT the way (because SE will just replicate the levequest slider). Quote the piece of text where I suggested a level cap would solve the difficulty issue.

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...Find it?

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...didn't think so. Doesn't exist.

We need something that encourages strategic play.

strategic play isnt in this conversation, thats the problem

its a bunch of people whining that others may get gear faster then them by using 50s

[Perrin_Aybarra]

adding a level cap doesnt promote strategy though
ill still have ALL my high level abilities

the difference between a slider and a cap is, with a cap, you FORCE people to play at that difficulty and level
with a slider you give them the option to make it harder if they WANT the challenge, without forcing people who just wanna do it to comform to that standard

that is pure assumption as well. Who said you would not be forced to choose a Job when entering a dungeon (paladin, whm, blm, etc.) and then you have certain abilities locked up and some level 50 abilities not available at level 30? Didn't see any mention of that. And since they forced you to go in groups in those dungeons and specified that Jobs were strickly for grouping, it's safer to assume you'll go in there with jobs rather than classes no?

[TheVedis]

that is pure assumption as well. Who said you would not be forced to choose a Job when entering a dungeon (paladin, whm, blm, etc.) and then you have certain abilities locked up and some level 50 abilities not available at level 30? Didn't see any mention of that. And since they forced you to go in groups in those dungeons and specified that Jobs were strickly for grouping, it's safer to assume you'll go in there with jobs rather than classes no?

lets be honest, do you really think itl do that?
seriously

[Perrin_Aybarra]

lets be honest, do you really think itl do that?
seriously

I hope it does. What's the point of the job system if you are not required to use it in instanced party areas?

[TheVedis]

I hope it does. What's the point of the job system if you are not required to use it in instanced party areas?

i could write a whole page on this but ill save that for another time
it really has nothing to do with this thread