Bigger and better incentives for tanks

[Fawkes]

It probably doesn't help that the party size is 4.

[randomrope]

It probably doesn't help that the party size is 4.

Dps makes up 50% of any party size

dungeons (4 man): 2/4 are dps
8 man: 4/8 are dps
CT 24 man: 12 are dps.

Doesnt matter what party size it is, 50% of all parties are dps and que times for them are still way too long because SO MANY people are dps because its easy and there is no responsibility. That's it. Tanks aren't joining your ques because they are all already qued or in dungeons. All the left over dps are just waiting in line for a tank.

[Fawkes]

Dps makes up 50% of any party size

dungeons (4 man): 2/4 are dps
8 man: 4/8 are dps
CT 24 man: 12 are dps.

Doesnt matter what party size it is, 50% of all parties are dps and que times for them are still way too long because SO MANY people are dps because its easy and there is no responsibility. That's it. Tanks aren't joining your ques because they are all already qued or in dungeons. All the left over dps are just waiting in line for a tank.

I meant instead of like 6 man light parties, with 4 dps per tank.

[Senfei]

Increasing party size, or release two more tank jobs and two more healing jobs would help the issue. I don't think there necessarily -needs- to be more than twice as many DPS classes as tanks and healers just because thats what a DF requires... I'm pretty sure the general popularity of DPS classes will allow for their roles to always be filled. If anything, it would take away the extreme end on both sides (instant for tank, soulexploding long for dps) and replace it with some form of a medium.

[randomrope]

I'm pretty sure the general popularity of DPS classes will allow for their roles to always be filled.

That is why the ques for dps are so long! Lets use the simplest idea so this all makes sense.

There is a server with only 6 people on it. 1 tank, 1 healer, 4 dps.

Everybody ques for a dungeon. 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps get in. That leaves 2 dps waiting around for a tank or a healer with a super long que time. BECAUSE THERE ARE TO MANY DPS

Now add everyone's magic idea of a new healer and tank class and lets try this again.

Everybody ques. 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps get in. That leaves 2 dps waiting around for a tank or a healer with a super long que time. BECAUSE THEY ARE TO LAZY TO PLAY A TANK OR HEALER.

[Gardes]

That is why the ques for dps are so long! Lets use the simplest idea so this all makes sense.

There is a server with only 6 people on it. 1 tank, 1 healer, 4 dps.

Everybody ques for a dungeon. 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps get in. That leaves 2 dps waiting around for a tank or a healer with a super long que time. BECAUSE THERE ARE TO MANY DPS

Now add everyone's magic idea of a new healer and tank class and lets try this again.

Everybody ques. 1 tank, 1 healer, and 2 dps get in. That leaves 2 dps waiting around for a tank or a healer with a super long que time. BECAUSE THEY ARE TO LAZY TO PLAY A TANK OR HEALER.

No, that leaves 2 dps waiting for a super long queue time because there aren't 2 extra people to play with.