The tanking shortage reasons

[Shref]

Has somebody been testing the threat multipliers for Overpower, Defiance or Steel Cyclone (or even flash for that matter)?

I haven't seen any testing since the 2.1 updates

unless its been ninja'ed, these should be the values as of the 2.1 patch. wish i would've bookmarked where i found them =/

[Marxam]

Boost tank damage so that you see some big numbers every once in awhile (1000+) like spirits within was in 1.0. ALSO, give me Holy Succor back damnit and take the infuriated requirement off of Steel Cyclone so it's no longer useless.

Apart from the obvious answer of "it's too OP" boosting dmg is counter productive to what a tank does. Either high defense or high HP (or both?). No where does it state that a tank has high dmg unless its an ability/weaponskill/cd.

You obviously haven't rolled with a war. I crit 1920 dmg with Butcher Block on Asclepius with 4 stacks. I nearly shat myself. Wish I had the screen pic but it is possible to hit big numbers.

If there's one skill that I would like from mrd/war it would be Rampage.

[Kitru]

unless its been ninja'ed, these should be the values as of the 2.1 patch. wish i would've bookmarked where i found them =/

SC most definitely generates a crapload more enmity than Overpower. I've always seen that it has the same 5x modifier as Overpower. Even so, you're forgetting that Steel Cyclone ignores Defiance, which means that it's functional potency is 266.66, not 200, so it generates even more than Overpower even if it were a x3 modifier (200 / .75 *3 * 2 = 1600).

[Shref]

SC most definitely generates a crapload more enmity than Overpower. I've always seen that it has the same 5x modifier as Overpower. Even so, you're forgetting that Steel Cyclone ignores Defiance, which means that it's functional potency is 266.66, not 200, so it generates even more than Overpower even if it were a x3 modifier (200 / .75 *3 * 2 = 1600).

didn't even consider that. at 3x this would make it even more overpowered than overpower. at 5x it'd be just stupid. just makes me love the skill that much more!!!

[givemeraptors]

Play as DPS -- No one thinks you're important. If you die a lot someone might throw a "DPS dodge!" your way.
Play as Healer -- Love all day, even if you stood there and did nothing 80% of the time.
Play as Tank -- "PULL MORE." "PULL LESS" "WHY U DYING SO MUCH?" "#$*#!" "U GOTTA MARK MOBS!"

Ahem.

Tanking doesn't carry more responsibility. It carries more harassment.

[juniglee]

Apart from the obvious answer of "it's too OP" boosting dmg is counter productive to what a tank does. Either high defense or high HP (or both?). No where does it state that a tank has high dmg unless its an ability/weaponskill/cd.

You obviously haven't rolled with a war. I crit 1920 dmg with Butcher Block on Asclepius with 4 stacks. I nearly shat myself. Wish I had the screen pic but it is possible to hit big numbers.

If there's one skill that I would like from mrd/war it would be Rampage.

Paladin isn't that bad either actually. I crit 1.2k on Rage of Halone on Asclepius with 4 stacks, with Fight or Flight and Sword Oath. 1.8k crit on Spirits Within with Fight or Flight, Sword Oath, and Mega Potion of STR HQ. Keep in mind too that Paladins will never reach the same numbers as Warriors, due to their main hand weapon being single handed, whereas Warriors are using a dual-handed main weapon.

[Kitru]

Keep in mind too that Paladins will never reach the same numbers as Warriors, due to their main hand weapon being single handed, whereas Warriors are using a dual-handed main weapon.

Weapon speed has absolutely nothing to do with special attack damage. The only thing it affects is auto-attack damage, but, no matter what, you still deal 83.33 potency per GCD so the DPS is identical. A 300 pot hit on a WAR is going to hit just as hard as a 300 pot hit on a PLD, all modifiers equal.

[juniglee]

Weapon speed has absolutely nothing to do with special attack damage. The only thing it affects is auto-attack damage, but, no matter what, you still deal 83.33 potency per GCD so the DPS is identical. A 300 pot hit on a WAR is going to hit just as hard as a 300 pot hit on a PLD, all modifiers equal.

Ah yes, sorry about that. I tend to forget that the shield also adds to the STR stat. Sword + shield gives the same amount of STR as 2h axe does.

[Delorean]

Tanking is a Duty in high demand because

It is boring
You don't really feel like you contribute anything to your group as a tank
You don't need a meter to tell that a tank isn't doing their job well
there are 5 DPS jobs and 2 tank jobs and 2 healer jobs. I mean, really, imagine the amount of whining that would ensue if there were only 2 DPS jobs.

[AlrikRouge]

First MMO I ever played. Picked a tank thinking it was the easiest role. Besides, it was a gladiator and thought that was cool.
ALWAYS asked for help, learn new things, etc. Got a lot of crap for that, but not too often.
In harder content, it became bothersome, because "I wasnt doing the dungeon right" = I wasnt doing it the way they wanted it done. Didnt wipe. Just not the way they wanted it. So....I asked each time to get plenty of idea, soon just started saying how I was going to do the pull, and go.