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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shref View Post
    seriously. definitely one of my favorite moves. it just sucks that i have to choose between it and IB whenever i get my stacks.

    if my math and sources are right(wouldn't surprise me if they're not), its actually just as much total enmity as overpower, but without any TP cost! for T4 this is invaluable! not to mention its more actual damage!!!
    OP: 120 potency (x5 enmity multiplier) (x2 defiance multiplier) = 1200 enmity
    SC: 200 potency (x3 enmity multiplier) (x2 defiance multiplier) = 1200 enmity

    of course its worth mentioning that you can't do unchained+SC, unless you use infuriate for SC. but you get the idea. still an extremely good skill.
    Has somebody been testing the threat multipliers for Overpower, Defiance or Steel Cyclone (or even flash for that matter)?

    I haven't seen any testing since the 2.1 updates
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    Shref Master
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    Has somebody been testing the threat multipliers for Overpower, Defiance or Steel Cyclone (or even flash for that matter)?

    I haven't seen any testing since the 2.1 updates
    unless its been ninja'ed, these should be the values as of the 2.1 patch. wish i would've bookmarked where i found them =/
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shref View Post
    unless its been ninja'ed, these should be the values as of the 2.1 patch. wish i would've bookmarked where i found them =/
    SC most definitely generates a crapload more enmity than Overpower. I've always seen that it has the same 5x modifier as Overpower. Even so, you're forgetting that Steel Cyclone ignores Defiance, which means that it's functional potency is 266.66, not 200, so it generates even more than Overpower even if it were a x3 modifier (200 / .75 *3 * 2 = 1600).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    SC most definitely generates a crapload more enmity than Overpower. I've always seen that it has the same 5x modifier as Overpower. Even so, you're forgetting that Steel Cyclone ignores Defiance, which means that it's functional potency is 266.66, not 200, so it generates even more than Overpower even if it were a x3 modifier (200 / .75 *3 * 2 = 1600).
    didn't even consider that. at 3x this would make it even more overpowered than overpower. at 5x it'd be just stupid. just makes me love the skill that much more!!!
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