Biggest problem with XIV is XI fans

[TheVedis]

People like other MMOs, they remember games theyve played in the past and for their favorites they are good memories

but lets face facts

we stopped playing those games for a reason

people stop playing wow
they stop playing 11
they stop playing other mmos too

and by cloning those mmos, you are just going to wanna stop playing the new "cloned" game that much sooner cuz itl feel like the same old game that you already grew tired of



and people need to realize, taking some good things from other games doesnt make it a clone, you just gotta know how to balance this
however making and advertising a game as if it were a better version of another game is(you all know what im talking about)

[Elexia]

In my years of play XI I've ran into tons of players who never played any other MMO's and dint want to. Convincing them to do so was like asking a redneck to go to dinner with bunch of Muslims.

Kinda like how despite coming later in the MMO life cycle, people felt like WoW created said genre?

[Joeking]

Kinda like how despite coming later in the MMO life cycle, people felt like WoW created said genre?

They made it more mainstream so to speak as WoW is the most accessible and caters to many types of players.

[_C-a-e-r-i-t-h_]

Look at me, I'm taking potshots at people who enjoyed FFXI! They're all such sheeple! Isn't that witty and original? It's like "sheep" plus "people"! Oh man it's so hard being the smartest person on the internet. 'Cause FFXIV is awesome I mean "has room for improvement" but yo momma's so fat she plays FFXI! ZING!

[elreed]

The point is that FFXI did actually do a lot of things right and that is why so many people played it for years. FFXIV is nothing like FFXI in fact I think they had a big box labelled FFXI and filled it with everything they learned from FFXI and taped it up and wrote in big letters "DO NOT USE".

Now I do not want a FFXI clone (though with I would have rather taken that over what we got so far) but I did expect them to use all those years of running a successful Final Fantasy MMO and take the good things about FFXI and evolve them and make them even better than what they were originally. That is not what they did, they went completely the opposite direction and tried to reinvent the wheel and sometimes when you do that you end up with a square and wonder why it doesn't roll, and that is where we are now.

i agree with you, if they use at least what worked in that game it would be the best thing for FF XIV.

If they keep the same battle mechanics that we have now with those contents it would be a lot better, just for example the campaign we had in XI in XIV could be in those hamlets but with larger waves where you can kill mobs by your own but make it really big waves so you have to be on the edge every time, then have a second wave with reduce number of harder mobs beaten with more tactics, then a third wave with a boss and a few hard mobs to keep us almost loosing the fight attacking from every angle.

Assaults on enemy camps or fortress to save a few NPC with different routes or fronts for several parties to cooperate in the same event would be epic, defending crystal camps for transportation control, etc.

I think those things are really good things FFXI had and can be reinvented in FFXIV with its own taste, and are things that other MMO's doesnt have, well at least with the FF difficulty.

[Morticous]

ZING! anyway, just stop posting man. Your post about people for FFXI is fail.

[AlexiaKidd]

i agree with you, if they use at least what worked in that game it would be the best thing for FF XIV.

If they keep the same battle mechanics that we have now with those contents it would be a lot better, just for example the campaign we had in XI in XIV could be in those hamlets but with larger waves where you can kill mobs by your own but make it really big waves so you have to be on the edge every time, then have a second wave with reduce number of harder mobs beaten with more tactics, then a third wave with a boss and a few hard mobs to keep us almost loosing the fight attacking from every angle.

Assaults on enemy camps or fortress to save a few NPC with different routes or fronts for several parties to cooperate in the same event would be epic, defending crystal camps for transportation control, etc.

I think those things are really good things FFXI had and can be reinvented in FFXIV with its own taste, and are things that other MMO's doesnt have, well at least with the FF difficulty.

Yeah I was kinda of hoping that Companies would introduce a Campaign style system where we had to attack and defend camps.

[Shikyo]

I think the biggest problem with FFXIV is the FFXI fans who just cant get over their FFXI fixation.
First of all FFXI was a mediocre PC-style mmo in a FF setting, it was dated at release, now the concept belongs in a museum.

You littered these forums with FFXI comparisons and complaints and that is not helpful for anyone for the simple reason XIV cannot be turned into XI even if the devs wanted to, so get over it.

FFXIV is in a rough state yes, it should not have been released, yeah yeah everybody knows that already so why beat this dead horse every single day?

FFXIV is missing many things like more story, quests that have a story to them, a purpose for the grind, itemization, rewards balance, decent tutorials, a reason to explore, hidden stuff.....off the top of my head.

There is a lot that can be improved and added to FFXIV that will make it into a good game so why not concentrate on that instead of endlessly stating the obvious (game is in rough shape) or silliness like turn it into XI.

you see you only got 5 approvals on that right?
w/o XI fans the games player base woulda been lower then it was at release XI fans were fooled into think this game would be as good or better then XI.
FFXI's concepts are about the only thing that will get this game were it needs to bet thats why mark my words if this game continues you will see more and more of XI's systems tweaked and intergrated into XIV.
If not the game wont make it, XI was the flag ship mmorpg by SE, and for it to be "mediocre" It had a Hard strong fan base for 10+ years, so that's a BS title you gave it.
Mediocrity doesnt keep ppl compelled to pay for a products for 10 years homegirl.
The money your saving from playing this awesome game that had to go f2p from p2p because its not "mediocre" like XI, use it to by a clue, you have obviously let the real problems with this game wiz past you.

[Joeking]

you see you only got 5 approvals on that right?
w/o XI fans the games player base woulda been lower then it was at release XI fans were fooled into think this game would be as good or better then XI.
FFXI's concepts are about the only thing that will get this game were it needs to bet thats why mark my words if this game continues you will see more and more of XI's systems tweaked and intergrated into XIV.
If not the game wont make it, XI was the flag ship mmorpg by SE, and for it to be "mediocre" It had a Hard strong fan base for 10+ years, so that's a BS title you gave it.
Mediocrity doesnt keep ppl compelled to pay for a products for 10 years [SIZE="5"]homegirl[/SIZE].
The money your saving from playing this awesome game that had to go f2p from p2p because its not "mediocre" like XI, use it to by a clue, you have obviously let the real problems with this game wiz past you.

Lol, just found that word funny...

[Laughlyn]

Oh and a little advice, next time read the posts carefully before getting agressive and insulting, half of what you posted shows that you either didnt read or didnt understand my post.

I dont take advice from complete asshats that missing the points him/herself.

Comparisons are more constructive than anything else since we players dont even have the option to
Freakin try out whats good or not that the devs are actually are planning to implement, so most of
us use FFXI as a point of refrence since this game is far from anything like Aion, WoW or any other.

Fact is FFXIV is based upon one game, one game only... FFXI, now face the fact or get the freakin hell over it.

The thing people here is pointing out with turning FFXIV into FFXI, is not the exact same game,
we mean the basic gameplay functions, such as now Auto-Attack, mail-system, Aution House,
Personal Housing etc, most of these functions are basics in other mmo's and FFXI have no god
damn copyright on such things, hell these things actually exsist in real-life (incase you didnt notice...ya real life)

I dont remember seeing anyone complaining about the FFXIV-lore lately...just this shows how much / little
we want the actual "FFXI" lore in this game...ya thats right we want the FFXIV lore to stay as it is,
but the general gameplay mechanics etc, is what putting people off from actually playing it.

Imagine having the full WoW gameplay mechanics in FFXIV, flying massive mounts, glowing
weapons & shit everywhere... talk about a lag-fest beyond belief with FFXIV's current engine.