Harder to enjoy ARR as a 1.2X-era FF14 player?

[ReplicaX]

If I remember correctly, one reason was the Engine which caused some restrictions. Not 100% sure though.

Engine was Crystal Tools and it's biggest problem company wide was simple. Too many programmers and projects in the same development period, trying to adapt the same engine to the needs of their project. It was a tool programmers nightmare and caused the engine to be more limited, when one of original goals was not to have an engine as restrictive as XI's was.

This is why SE developed the Luminous Engine. Being easier to program for single or multi-platform, tailor to a specific project, and also supports the DX11 API for PC.

[BlackHaloJT]

@ LlenCoram
This exactly how I felt. I get chills watching that video to this day and remembering what the game used to be like. I was excited for the future after what Yoshi delivered to us in 1.23. Now I look around and wish the Calamity took out ARR instead. I cannot say everything about ARR is bad and yes Version 1 was hard on cp's and they needed to ease requirements and expand the game to a larger audience. But they ripped everything they built upon in 1.23 and just went the corporate lame copy other games way. Believe it or not I do read a lot forums and many comments from other topics and I can respect that some people really like ARR. I just wish they would of blended what 1.23 had to offer to something new and exciting like they promised us version 1 players back then. I also keep hearing about how new this game is and we should wait for further content to judge how the game will turn out. Sounds like Deja'vu to me.

[LlenCoram]

@ LlenCoram
This exactly how I felt. I get chills watching that video to this day and remembering what the game used to be like. I was excited for the future after what Yoshi delivered to us in 1.23. Now I look around and wish the Calamity took out ARR instead. I cannot say everything about ARR is bad and yes Version 1 was hard on cp's and they needed to ease requirements and expand the game to a larger audience. But they ripped everything they built upon in 1.23 and just went the corporate lame copy other games way. Believe it or not I do read a lot forums and many comments from other topics and I can respect that some people really like ARR. I just wish they would of blended what 1.23 had to offer to something new and exciting like they promised us version 1 players back then. I also keep hearing about how new this game is and we should wait for further content to judge how the game will turn out. Sounds like Deja'vu to me.

Yeah, the "the game just came out, give it time!" excuse grates quite a bit. We gave it time, in fact we gave it nearly three years of time. I realise 1.0 to 1.23 was a two year difference, but saying that "it took 1.0 two years to get as good as 1.23 was, so give 2.0 time" doesn't work for me, because 1.23 was already great.

Yes I realise it's a new game. It still bothers me that they took a step back. Too much was changed just for the sake of changing it.

[TrystWildkey]

Make your account inactive so you still have time later on if the game gets better FOR YOU.

Just confirmed with SE support, that even if my account goes inactive, the 110 days remaining on my sub will keep counting down.

If I quit now, and come back 90 days later, I'll have only 20 days left on my sub.

*sigh*

[BlackHaloJT]

From a past posting-
Yoshi Interview taken from Gamebeat-
http://venturebeat.com/2013/06/17/th...ogo-interview/

Yoshida: Because I wasn’t on the team when that decision was made, I’m going to guess why, from what I’ve heard. What I believe is that, back then, they probably thought that a lot of the Final Fantasy XI users would move to Final Fantasy XIV when it was released. But because what they were making was a new game in Final Fantasy XIV, they didn’t want to make them exactly the same. Then it would just be Final Fantasy XI-2, and they didn’t want to make a Final Fantasy XI-2. But they wanted to make it easier for those people who had been playing Final Fantasy XI for such a long time to take a step into this new world by creating things that were similar, but different and unique to the Final Fantasy XIV world.

But then again, that lets us see one of the biggest things that was wrong with the original release of Final Fantasy XIV. If they wanted to make it—they should have taken it and made it into Final Fantasy XI-2. Take Final Fantasy XI and make a sequel with new types of systems and new graphics, but build it off of that foundation. Instead of doing that, they decided they wanted to do something new, but still use some of the things from XI. Again, instead of taking one thing and taking it to the next level, they just kept everything kind of in the middle. Nothing was exceptional. That’s why you get this quagmire that was the original release of Final Fantasy XIV. There were a lot of great things that came out of XI, a lot of revolutionary things, like the level sync system. But the fact is, when they made the original Final Fantasy XIV, they made it with a server system that wouldn’t allow level sync. You have this great system you developed. Why not have your new game also use that?

If I wanted to destroy everything that was in the original XIV, I wouldn’t have taken on the position of rebuilding XIV. I would have gone on to Final Fantasy XVI and made that instead. The fact that I took up XIV is because I realized that, again, even though it had the rocky launch, there were still a lot of people out there who loved the game. You had this new generation of players who didn’t play XI and started their MMO experience with Final Fantasy XIV. For them, they don’t know about Tarutaru. They don’t know about Mithra. For them, they know about the Lalafell and the Mi’qote. To take that and destroy that would be destroying those people’s image of what they got into the game for. There’s tens of thousands of people that, for them, that was the first thing. As a hardcore MMO player myself, I know how important characters are to player. They’re your alter egos. Going in and destroying that and starting over with something absolutely new would crush those people. So keeping that was one of the things I decided we were going to do when we set out to rebuild XIV. Keeping those basic things that people had become used to with Final Fantasy XIV.

Letter from the Producer, LI (10/16/2013)
Hello again, all you FFXIVers out there! Yoshi-P here, bringing you my fifty-first Letter from the Producer.

It's already been a month and a half since release, and after adding several new Worlds, optimizing the servers, and expanding the data centers, it's full speed ahead for the development team as we prepare for the first big patch.

Looking over data from each World, it's great to see so many players in every level range. Whether it's exploring the nooks and crannies of Eorzea, chasing after FATE, braving through dungeons for Allagan tomestomes, or taking on the Binding Coil of Bahamut, everyone seems to be settling into their own play style as they find their place in the community.

As for myself, I’ve finally defeated Titan in the main story, and am now in snowswept Coerthas. I’ve been going it incognito on the public servers, and it’s been a lot of fun playing with you all. I can never resist a shout for help to venture through lower level dungeons, so it'll probably be a while before I reach end game.

1. So.... I thought you said in that interview you were a "hardcore" player Yoshi? Haven't even reached endgame yet? You said end game is where the fun starts...

2. Exploring the nooks and crannies of Eorzea? What world are you in the twilight zone? You make it sound like this new world you created is huge. Did you ever chocobo, sprint, or even walk across these zones? They are a joke.

3. Braving the dungeons.... You mean spamming the dungeons until you want to /wrist correct?

4. Everyone seems to be settling in their own play style as they find their place in the community? And what play style? Zerg, button smash, 123, 123, 123? Dodging AEO avoid the pretty lighted up circles?

5. Are you playing the same game as we are Yoshi? Finding our place in the community? Is that what you call this toxic whining playerbase we have in 2.0? It wasn't like that in V1.

[LlenCoram]

Depressing facts

Wow this is depressing. Someone else said it best, I forget who:

We thought Yoshi understood us and was going to help us. Turns out he was just one hell of a salesman.

[Frisque]

this entire thread gets all my feels.

and while I enjoy the snow in coerthas, I really don't understand why they couldn't split the damn zone so the Southern part was still an Evergreen woodsy Wonderland with the snow father north.

I can't understand all the fluff quests in the main scenario. The banquet one made me want to flip the table. However, to the new dev team's credit the scenario quests from Cid to end are epic, and the class quests are wonderfully delicious!

If I could smoosh 1.23 and ARR together I'd be in gamer heaven.

[LlenCoram]

this entire thread gets all my feels.

and while I enjoy the snow in coerthas, I really don't understand why they couldn't split the damn zone so the Southern part was still an Evergreen woodsy Wonderland with the snow father north.

I can't understand all the fluff quests in the main scenario. The banquet one made me want to flip the table. However, to the new dev team's credit the scenario quests from Cid to end are epic, and the class quests are wonderfully delicious!

If I could smoosh 1.23 and ARR together I'd be in gamer heaven.

Don't even get me started on Coerthas. A friend of mine linked me to a video of me fishing at Riversmeet (prettiest place in western coerthas) and I honestly almost shed a tear. Then I made the mistake of playing 1.0's Coerthas song and got even closer. The snow is cool, sure, but they ruined Coerthas.

In fact, they basically ruined all my favourite places. Iron Lake? I caught first 1000 fish there. Crimson crayfish, the lot of them. The kobolds ruined that place. It used to be a beautiful lake, rolling hills, On Windy Meadows.

Ditto Bald Knoll. I spent the majority of the End there, catching Navigator's Ears and Young Indigo Herring. I've still got all of both in my retainers, nearly 57 stacks of the young indigo herring. The whole place got nuked and turned into some freaky mutant sahagin camp now.

Moraby Bay, the tiny little nook on a cliff with a hard-to-get-to aetherial... thing. It used to be a Grade 9 fishing spot. After grinding botanist to 25 (throwing my hatchet in the ocean immediately after) for Sweat of Brow, Merlthor Gobies would come up for the astounding 2000SP per fish. That's where I got Fisher Rank 50. It's all industry now, and for some reason the only way to get to the wolf's den even though, from the den, you can see Limsa perfectly.

Riversmeet though. I can't even go to it anymore. There's a giant ice wall in the way and it breaks my heart. Riversmeet was my home and I'm both dying to get back to it and terrified at whatever Yoshi probably did to it. I'm sure my lake is gone, the stream is gone, the rocks overlooking the waterfall is gone.



RIP Riversmeet.

[BlackHaloJT]

Challenge Accepted- Find Louisoix have him teleport us back to 1.23 to those that want to go. Lets meet at Battle of Carteneau site and be reborn.

[Autymnfyres]

...(the one in my signature) ...

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Thats awesome Naraku, glad you are enjoying it.

I will say though: only wish my Bardess' outfit/gear/armor looked like the fabulous illustration in your siggy, instead of a JESTER'S COSTUME of PATCHWORK. ;o/ Hoping for that Mirage system SOONER rather than LATER. ;o/