Best materia setup for crafters?

[Seshomaru]

Thanks so much for the response Matsume and you are absolutely right and I checked my Screenshot to make sure and sure enough it is a NQ head piece

[Rowyne]

Body (HQ AF): 16 Craftsmanship; 5 Control; 0 CP
- Optimum meld option 1: Craftsmanship IV, Control III, Craftsmanship III, Craftsmanship III, Control II
- The above option has less reliance on Tier-4 materia
- Optimum meld option 2: Craftsmanship IV, Craftsmanship IV, Craftsmanship III, Control II, Craftsmanship II
- The above option has less expensive forbidden melds

This is a fantastic guide! Thanks for this.

However, I think option 2 has a typo. Shouldn't it be Craftsmanship IV, Craftsmanship IV, Control III, Control II, Craftsmanship II?

[Raldo]

Yep, my bad. I'll fix that.

[Haroon]

Hi, I just finished getting all my Discipline of Hand to 50. Now I wanted to meld my gear, that every class has some advantage from it.

From your post all your Materia slots have a Craftsmanship Materia in it, but from what I read in this thread on reddit you don't actually need any Craftsmanship Materia to reach 100% HQ for 2 Star items.

So my question is, whats the point in melding craftsmanship materia into my gear?

[LineageRazor]

Hi, I just finished getting all my Discipline of Hand to 50. Now I wanted to meld my gear, that every class has some advantage from it.

From your post all your Materia slots have a Craftsmanship Materia in it, but from what I read in this thread on reddit you don't actually need any Craftsmanship Materia to reach 100% HQ for 2 Star items.

So my question is, whats the point in melding craftsmanship materia into my gear?

For you, someone who has all crafts to 50, there is probably no point in melding craftsmanship. As you noted, there are routines that do not depend on additional craftsmanship to get you 100% HQ, all the time. For players who only have one or a few classes leveled to 50, every little bit helps, and craftsmanship is no exception.

This doesn't NECESSARILY mean that craftsmanship will always be useless to you; SE will likely add higher-level, more challenging recipes in the future. But for now, you can probably get by without it.

Edit: Another reason you might want craftsmanship is that some 2-star recipes come built-in with a high craftsmanship requirement that is not attainable with unmelded gear. I think you can attain it with food, though, if you really want to avoid craftsmanship melds.

[Haroon]

Edit: Another reason you might want craftsmanship is that some 2-star recipes come built-in with a high craftsmanship requirement that is not attainable with unmelded gear. I think you can attain it with food, though, if you really want to avoid craftsmanship melds.

Thanks for the swift reply, its good to hear that I don't need to meld any craftsmanship to my gear. However about the craftsmanship req you're talking about, most of the items have a control req rather than a craftsmanship req. The craftsmanship req. is only on the 40 durabilty items, and you don't need those in hq anyways. But you're right, I would have to use buffood to craft these. How ever I think its more economical to use buffood that to try to forbidden meld all those materias and going broke in the process.

[LineageRazor]

Thanks for the swift reply, its good to hear that I don't need to meld any craftsmanship to my gear. However about the craftsmanship req you're talking about, most of the items have a control req rather than a craftsmanship req. The craftsmanship req. is only on the 40 durabilty items, and you don't need those in hq anyways. But you're right, I would have to use buffood to craft these. How ever I think its more economical to use buffood that to try to forbidden meld all those materias and going broke in the process.

I think maybe you misunderstand - the 347 Craftsmanship requirement is not there to allow an easy HQ, it is the minimum stat requirement you need before the game will even allow you to attempt the synth. I agree, you don't need to HQ the 40 durability items, but if you can't achieve that level of craftsmanship, then it means you won't be able to make them yourself at all, because the game will not allow you to attempt the synth.

At least on my server, there's a significant markup in price between the Philo tome ingreds needed to craft the 40 durability items and the price of buying the 40 durability items outright. If that's a price you're comfortable paying, that's fine, but if you want to make your own, whether they be NQ OR HQ, you'll need to get your craftsmanship up to that minimum.

[HiroSagaru]

To all who are seeking one thing, HQ 100% on any and all crafts:

If your goal is to achieve 100% from 0 it will obviously be harder,but here's what ive achieved 100% with.

Craftsmanship:347
Control:318
Cp:335-339

I achevied this simply by adding only grade 2-3 to my green crafting gear. This was easily obtained by materia farming in 45+ crafting gear as my DGN. I'm sure most of you have level 50s, but if you don't another way u can achieve this is by quick synthesizing cheap items such as rosewood or cobalt. These give you 1% sb per 2 synthe if u have ur item hq and affixed with junk materia.

Now most HQ two stars are about 2600 points. This isn't acheivable starting from zero unless ur just lucky. However as an omnicrafter with all abilities I realize the stat requirements goes down the more moves u have at ur disposal. I try to use hq at least 1 or 2 hq materials when crafting something so I get a 400-700 start and this is about all I need with my current combo.

[HiroSagaru]

Also this is how I see the importance: CP>Control>Craftsmanship

1.Innovation: CP 18 Boosts CP by 50% for the next 3 turns.
2.Ingenuity 2: CP 32 Makes the difficulty of crafting 3 levels below ur current level for 5 turns.
3. More CP means more moves which in the game of luck means EVERYTHING.

These moves alone have made it where I only need the required amount of both Craftsmanship and Control. I'm not saying you necessarily need to ignore the other stats but cp is what ultimately take ur Synthesis and Quality based moves to their true potential.

Think of cp as TP in a Dps class. Yes your base stats are what you wanna increase but without tp your character cannot perform at his true potential. If he cannot use his skills than he is no better an npc who auto attacks and you see as a "meat shield"

[HiroSagaru]

Thanks for the swift reply, its good to hear that I don't need to meld any craftsmanship to my gear. However about the craftsmanship req you're talking about, most of the items have a control req rather than a craftsmanship req. The craftsmanship req. is only on the 40 durabilty items, and you don't need those in hq anyways. But you're right, I would have to use buffood to craft these. How ever I think its more economical to use buffood that to try to forbidden meld all those materias and going broke in the process.

Do you really wanna spend 3k everytime you need one item that requires 347 craftsmanship?

Yes you can meld items that req 318 control without having 347 craftsmanship, but honestly having 347 craftsmanship is something you should really consider seeing as having anything less will make it where making 40 durabilities req two steps to synthesize instead of just one with ingenuity 2 in effect and using careful syn 2.