Free Company Credits

[dcdistro]

Let me explain it a little of the group dynamics of a larger free company and misconceptions many people have about them. Our free company personally have players on 24/7 and we specifically, have since beta gone out and recruited from different time zones so there is a balanced group of members online 24/7 from around the world. We ourselves are an all adult fc so with this respect people have jobs, families, college/university etc. So the schedules of many players can be scattered in times frames and zones. People working night shifts, or night owls. etc and the lists go one to when people prefer or can play their game.

With a group of say 500 members say 125 per time zone regionally ... North American EST, PST, European, and oceanic, of which maybe 20-30 play daily and regularly due to disabilities, retired, unemployed, house wife/husband or school breaks. Another 10-20 per day during the respective time frame maybe only log in once a day for an hour or so while others may only be able to log in every few days. This allows for 4-8 man dungeons to be run as well as allow for people to take the time to help others who are new and up and coming in the game. Some time zones lead into others and enables people to pick up and do most things within the free company any time of day or night without having to deal with the horrors of duty finders etc. This begins to grow your family/free company. At the moment due to the game still being fairly new a lot of people come play for 2-3 months and just stop playing. Clean up your inactive lists and take the time to recruit and make new friends. We were all new to MMO's at one point and time and with this being a sony console exclusive there are a lot of new players and great people out there who can use your guidance so reach your hand out and help them. You can always re-invite old friends who return to the game 4-5 months down the road or later. It's us who make the community so lets try to make it the best we can for the long run.

[Thorauku]

MMO's are about community and is a good reason to start cultivating one is a large free company.

Tell me more about it, I bet you don't even know the half of the members in your Free Company.

You can say that those points were not farmed via FATEs, but truth is, FATEs were the fastest way to earn points pre 2.1.

...No thanks. I'd rather have a small to mid-sized fc where everyone knows each other. Having hundreds of members shouldn't be the only way to get a decent amount FC points.

TLDR version of this thread.

[Stormrider]

I wanted to post a complaint about small companies. I am sure we can all think of at least one reason they adversely affect the server. But on the point of credits. Did they not make leves give credit or am I remembering wrong. Is everyone doing the daily allotment of leves?

[Camate]

Greetings!

We definitely understand that free company credits are being used up more quickly now that two actions can be activated.

You’ll be happy to know that the team is currently discussing new methods to obtain free company credits. Of the methods, they are looking to make it so you can obtain them by participating in PvP and content through the Duty Finder. While I can’t promise a specific implementation time right now, I’ll be sure to keep you updated!

[Devils_Lawyer]

Been there done that. There's almost no incentive for us anymore to spam FATEs as most of us already have complete jobs, aside from the credits ofcourse.

You answerd my point exacly, you dont WANT to grind fates to get fc credits, you want them earned when doing something you WANT to do such as dungeons.

But sometimes you have to do stuff you dont like in order to be able to obtain stuff you do like.

[Zikh]

Let me explain it a little of the group dynamics of a larger free company and the misconceptions people have about them.

Yet you don't really know anyone from your fc. You don't know what they do, you don't know what kind of things or humour someone likes nor do you know anything about their personalities. This is the reason why big fcs are pointless. It's like a small town where everyone is into everyone's business, without really knowing anyone. Well, you might know few people, the ones you constantly play when you log in.

Small fcs are like family, you get to really know them. You know what pisses them off and what they like, you'll find out things about them you propably wouldn't want to. Smaller fcs are better in every way if you're looking for a "community". Huge fcs are only good for avoiding people, getting lost in the crowd and they prevent the constant fc invite spam.

[HEC]

You’ll be happy to know that the team is currently discussing new methods to obtain free company credits.

What about crafting and gathering? Now you get only a few points and ONLY for HQ crafts and gathers which exludes in large non-HQ-able items like dyes and shards / crystals / clusters - please make those to generate company credits as well!

[Thorauku]

You answerd my point exacly, you dont WANT to grind fates to get fc credits, you want them earned when doing something you WANT to do such as dungeons.

But sometimes you have to do stuff you dont like in order to be able to obtain stuff you do like.

Actually I did. Just did a couple of FATEs since 2.16 patch due to the new achievements (3,000 FATEs for Paragon Gown), and all I can say is FATEs are horrible atm.

I've been FATE grinding for 2 hours, and guess what? I only gained somewhere around 1k~ish point. It's 30 point per FATE btw, do the math and you'll know how horrible it is.

In any case, this thread has brought up attention to the DEV team, the fact that Camate up there said they understand that free companies are using up more credits than usual and discussing a new solution just means there's something missing with the current system.

@Camate
Thank you for your response. Hopefully it'll be implemented in 2.2.

[Devils_Lawyer]

Camates post is correct, but what is not mention is that the reason credits arnt enough anymore is because people arnt doing fates anymore because running dungeons is faster experiance gain.

If people would still be doing fates as much as they use to this issue wouldnt even have existed.

And 30 points per fate times 8 is 1k points every 5 fates since youll be working togheter with your FC to scramble up those points (hopefully).

But i guess you cant outrun both players and SE:s will to serve everything on a silver platter.

[Thorauku]

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You can't expect everyone to spend their only online time to do FATEs right? That's why we're asking for an alternative, and in no way asking to serve it on a silver platter. LOL!

God, I've been thinking this for a while, but where in my post that I'm asking to hand it to us easily, heck FATE grinding is even more easy than what we're asking, it's just that we're asking for a different option to farm the points. I'll say it again, WE ONLY WANT AN ALTERNATIVE. Highlighted-Capitalized for you to understand.