My friend the "content locust" :(

[Imapooonu]

Your friend is how many players are feeling

I understand that. We all understand this. But we should also understand it's a choice to feel this way. Whether they want to admit it or not, there is plenty of stuff to do. Some have been sucked into the coil trend and cannot find a way out.

The point of this isn't to tell anyone "there's stuff to do you're technically incorrect", but rather to point out there are options still available you once enjoyed that gave you a reason to play in the first place.

If coil and ex primals are your thing, then realize the problem is isolated within yourself and your own preferences. Hopefully, if they do this, they will be able to enjoy other aspects of the game.

[Doo]

I understand that. We all understand this. But we should also understand it's a choice to feel this way. Whether they want to admit it or not, there is plenty of stuff to do. Some have been sucked into the coil trend and cannot find a way out.

I understand that. We all understand this. But we should also understand that not everyone likes to do obsolete content, level classes they don't like to play, level chocobo when it doesn't even matter, etc. The choice are so limited that players are feeling this way faster.

[Imapooonu]

I understand that. We all understand this. But we should also understand that not everyone likes to do obsolete content, level classes they don't like to play, level chocobo when it doesn't even matter, etc. The choice are so limited that players are feeling this way faster.

But that's relative. It's as subjective as my preferences. Many people I know make this complaint, haven't tried pvp, don't have 50k seals, etcetra...it's like you only read the first line and decided to comment to be honest.

I'm prepared...are you? And who says something has to have a personal gain in order to be fun? I help people in my linkshell all the time with something that nets me little reward. That is kinda what an mmo is all about, but yet many people treat mmos as an isolated experience.

Imo, it's just kind of sad is all.

Your friend would probably want to do those things if there was a purpose to doing them.

PVP: Not many in the FF MMO really care for it.
GC: They lost a significant purpose in ARR. They are nothing compared to what they were in 1.0. Just a pile of seals that can be used to purchase filler trash.
Chocobo: Outside of leveling your chocobo, or perhaps spiritbonding. What purpose does this have? It's not like it's required when leveling since everything is so easy.

They have content, but everything is bare bones to the point where it feels worthless doing it.

Addressed in the op.

[Zezlar]

Addressed in the op.

Not everyone can share your sense of hope for the future. Square-Enix needs to show us what they can do. I can hope all I want this game will change, doesn't mean it will.

[Doo]

I'm prepared...are you? And who says something has to have a personal gain in order to be fun? I help people in my linkshell all the time with something that nets me little reward. That is kinda what an mmo is all about, but yet many people treat mmos as an isolated experience.

Yes, that's human nature. We mostly do things that benefit us. Some players can find enjoyment chatting with friends, helping out, etc. Those are the same type of players that can make their own fun and can do it in any game they play.

[Parodine]

I do think there are a lot of people like you. 'Completionist' is probably a more positive term for it. There are some games that I'm like that with, but I can't bring myself to do it with this game, dunno why.

We're all burning time one way or another, I don't judge people for that playstyle. I just don't see it as appealing for my free-time.

[Imapooonu]

I do think there are a lot of people like you. 'Completionist' is probably a more positive term for it. There are some games that I'm like that with, but I can't bring myself to do it with this game, dunno why.

We're all burning time one way or another, I don't judge people for that playstyle. I just don't see it as appealing for my free-time.

I can respect this, thank you for your honesty

Not everyone can share your sense of hope for the future. Square-Enix needs to show us what they can do. I can hope all I want this game will change, doesn't mean it will.

8 additional ranks in the GC log for instance isn't hope or optimism per say, it's plain to see. Just one example.

But there is truth in what you say...there is also truth from the other perspective.

Yes, that's human nature. We mostly do things that benefit us. Some players can find enjoyment chatting with friends, helping out, etc. Those are the same type of players that can make their own fun and can do it in any game they play.

Just the fact that I clearly state my friend was of the "hive mind" mindset gives an example that it's not always human nature.

And most sociologists would disagree with you. It is human nature to give instead of take. Albeit gaming is a very different environment concerning these studies. I'll grant you that.

[jabbywocks]

I get that there's lots more things to do, but if you find those things boring, it's not enough to keep you playing.

I have not done coil yet, I have no interest in doing coil yet. I have not done EX primals because people a jerks about it and I don't feel like being yelled at because I'm not experienced. I don't want to level all the classes or jobs. When I play a MMO, I pick one class and I perfect my playing of that class. Switching all around to different classes just throws me off.

It's not about the game lacking content, it's about the game lacking content that I find fun to participate in. Personally, I'm into questing and leveling. I will constantly make new chars just to run through all of the quests again. And even though I've done them all 100 times, I still get enjoyment out of it because I like questing! I like gaining levels! I like checking to see what my next armor upgrade is and being able to farm for it, buy it, earn it from quests and not spend months running the same content just to get one piece.

Raise the level cap and throw in a few hundred side quests and I'll be logged on all day, erry day. Right now I'm looking around at other mmos to play...

[TeraRamis]

Honestly, I think FFXIV launched with a very low amount of content compared to many modern MMOs. The lack of any real PvP means that half the game -- for some of us -- is just missing.

[Baxter]

I understand that. We all understand this. But we should also understand it's a choice to feel this way. Whether they want to admit it or not, there is plenty of stuff to do.

your friend was being polite, knowing you still held interest in the game.


At this point you're arguing semantics. Boring content=/=no content

Call us content locusts because we refuse to continue to pay for and play a boring repetitive GAME. Not all of us are completionist. Things like max levels on all jobs, useless chocobo companions, and useless achievements have very little weight or staying power when I've completed the hardest content and geared my desired class in some of the best gear. Fact is the game is lacking meaningful content. The reason you rarely see much dissention in the public forums on any of the fan sites because most people quit in silence. They may return during next version update or they may not. It's wait and see.

What completionists and hardcore fans fail to understand is if Yoshi and Co continues this development cycle it will spell certain ruin for this game. I'm not going to go into all what the game needs, but if the devs made half the crap you listed to your friend meaningful and useful in game they'd probably have more people playing still; your friend included.