My friend the "content locust" :(

[Baxter]

I understand that. We all understand this. But we should also understand it's a choice to feel this way. Whether they want to admit it or not, there is plenty of stuff to do.

your friend was being polite, knowing you still held interest in the game.


At this point you're arguing semantics. Boring content=/=no content

Call us content locusts because we refuse to continue to pay for and play a boring repetitive GAME. Not all of us are completionist. Things like max levels on all jobs, useless chocobo companions, and useless achievements have very little weight or staying power when I've completed the hardest content and geared my desired class in some of the best gear. Fact is the game is lacking meaningful content. The reason you rarely see much dissention in the public forums on any of the fan sites because most people quit in silence. They may return during next version update or they may not. It's wait and see.

What completionists and hardcore fans fail to understand is if Yoshi and Co continues this development cycle it will spell certain ruin for this game. I'm not going to go into all what the game needs, but if the devs made half the crap you listed to your friend meaningful and useful in game they'd probably have more people playing still; your friend included.

[Noahlimits]

But we should also understand it's a choice to feel this way.

You lost any sway with your argument when you made this comment. You don't choose to feel the game is boring/lacking content. Most people don't find leveling every single class to 50 fun. Or leveling a chocobo fun.

[Imapooonu]

You lost any sway with your argument when you made this comment. You don't choose to feel the game is boring/lacking content. Most people don't find leveling every single class to 50 fun. Or leveling a chocobo fun.

I am not making an argument.

Please see comment above.

[Zarzak]

The point of this isn't to tell anyone "there's stuff to do you're technically incorrect", but rather to point out there are options still available you once enjoyed that gave you a reason to play in the first place.

The problem is there are a LOT of us who have nothing to do.

Going down your list...

PVP? Yep not quite capped yet but as that is the only option available right now..... Can only do so much of it.

Chocobo? That is solo player content. This is a MULTIPLAYER game. While I personally have it done counting that in his "list of things to do in this MMO he plays" is insanity.

Seals? How is he not capped 0_o fates prior to 2.1 left me with capped AND every pet, barding, item I could want from them leveling up alt classes. And now the dailies even give seals.


achievements? Again... solo player content. There are next to none that involve any player to player interaction (such as dungeon achievements. And I HATE instanced dungeons but I will say in Rift getting a group together and trying to clear those achievements was fun)



Your friend obviously knows that an MMO is about playing with OTHER PEOPLE unlike the modern MMO where everyone cries that they can't live in their antisocial bubble and get raid gear without ever grouping with another human being. And he is 100% correct there are 3 things you can do. PVP , Dungeons (until you have every class 50 anyay... then you just do 3-4 a week for myth), and BC once a week (which takes about 40 minutes)

I'd seriously recommend dropping the game and picking it up after an expansion or two if you are specifically looking for the FFXI experience, which I totally understand. This game will thrive because it has made SE so much money, but a dev team has a schedule already made. Once the fiscal quarter changes, we may be able to see a difference in the dev cycle, but until then we just have to be patient. This goes for anyone.

If this was XI or EQ sure... This is a modern design MMO. If he picks up the game in 2 expansion he will still only take about a month to hit cap, then he will do whatever the current tier of dungeons is and in about 5 weeks be max geared. Modern MMO system is to invalidate content each time more is released. Group gear replaces raid gear instantly. Instead of the EQ/XI design where group gear doesn't catch up to raid gear for like 3 expansions.

[Zezlar]

Your friend would probably want to do those things if there was a purpose to doing them.

PVP: Not many in the FF MMO really care for it.
GC: They lost a significant purpose in ARR. They are nothing compared to what they were in 1.0. Just a pile of seals that can be used to purchase filler trash.
Chocobo: Outside of leveling your chocobo, or perhaps spiritbonding. What purpose does this have? It's not like it's required when leveling since everything is so easy.

They have content, but everything is bare bones to the point where it feels worthless doing it.

[Xatsh]

It is a difference between camps of people in mmos, and a big distinction I feel between those who treat mmos like oldschool mmos and those who treat mmo no different then offline games.

There is a load of stuff I have never done. I am still low reputation level 1 on all beast tribes. I have never done a hardmode dungeon. I have completed only the mainstory quest to unlock stuff so I have a ton of side quest left. I have over 80% of achievements still unachieved, I have not capped my chocobo. My crafts are not all leveled.I have never fished in XIV:ARR. But the real question is why would I take the time to do any of these. What does an achievement get me? What does a chocobo get me when I have a guild I play with? Why should I level a job that is based around the economy when Yoshida himself said it was his intent to kill off the economy? Why should I spend weeks doing dailys when the only reward is a vanity mount which gives me nothing more then my free chocobo? Why should I do a dungeon for Ilvl55-60gear when I am beating turn 5 and extreme and capping myth in 2days?

The issue is negated content and vanity content. Once content is meaningless I see no reason to even consider it valid which is how a huge segment of the game thinks as well. This is why WoW after so many expansions many people still say the game has a massive lack of content. It is why XIV has now and probably will always have a lack of content. 2.2 is negating crystal towers and probably extreme mode primals. 2.1 negated all hard mode dungeons(including the ones that were released in 2.1). The vanity system adds nothing to the game for me. I will not do old content for vanity purposes like Yoshida keeps saying people will do. Having a title "Honest Gillonaire" Next to my name will not make me do more leves to get it.

Many will disagree with me. But vanity, titles with no benefit, and meaningless trophies to me and many others are a 100% waste of time, that is not why I play mmos. I understand that a whole other camp will say well that is part of the game I am choosing to not do content. But to me and many other that is not content at all.

SE should tie content together to make it last for years, not purposely design it to be thrown away every 3 months.

[CYoung187]

It is a difference between camps of people in mmos, and a big distinction I feel between those who treat mmos like oldschool mmos and those who treat mmo no different then offline games.

There is a load of stuff I have never done. I am still low reputation level 1 on all beast tribes. I have never done a hardmode dungeon. I have completed only the mainstory quest to unlock stuff so I have a ton of side quest left. I have over 80% of achievements still unachieved, I have not capped my chocobo. My crafts are not all leveled.I have never fished in XIV:ARR. But the real question is why would I take the time to do any of these. What does an achievement get me? What does a chocobo get me when I have a guild I play with? Why should I level a job that is based around the economy when Yoshida himself said it was his intent to kill off the economy? Why should I spend weeks doing dailys when the only reward is a vanity mount which gives me nothing more then my free chocobo? Why should I do a dungeon for Ilvl55-60gear when I am beating turn 5 and extreme and capping myth in 2days?

The issue is negated content and vanity content. Once content is meaningless I see no reason to even consider it valid which is how a huge segment of the game thinks as well. This is why WoW after so many expansions many people still say the game has a massive lack of content. It is why XIV has now and probably will always have a lack of content. 2.2 is negating crystal towers and probably extreme mode primals. 2.1 negated all hard mode dungeons(including the ones that were released in 2.1). The vanity system adds nothing to the game for me. I will not do old content for vanity purposes like Yoshida keeps saying people will do. Having a title "Honest Gillonaire" Next to my name will not make me do more leves to get it.

Many will disagree with me. But vanity, titles with no benefit, and meaningless trophies to me and many others are a 100% waste of time, that is not why I play mmos. I understand that a whole other camp will say well that is part of the game I am choosing to not do content. But to me and many other that is not content at all.

SE should tie content together to make it last for years, not purposely design it to be thrown away every 3 months.

Agreed with this, the game will never be content rich if they keep releasing new content to make previous content obsolete. Killing the economy also makes the game very dull. I also could care less about vanity, personal housing could really give me something to keep busy, but who knows if that will ever happen.

Do you have 999,999,999 gil? No, then you still have stuff to do!

[Imapooonu]

...snip...Call us content locusts because we refuse to continue to pay for and play a boring repetitive GAME...snip....

DISCLAIMER

This is not a thread to insult one person’s play style preferences over another. The term “content locust” was used for the sake of symbolism only. It is a familiar term we can relate to that describes a particular demographic in a relatively non-derogatory way. My friend I’m about to describe knows he’s a content locust, and is VERY good at it….on with the story…

The biggest problem in this forum right now is the lack of reading comprehension.

[astrobearthe2nd]

This is so suspicious as OP's mule 0_o. Same world, few posts, very recent join date.
Just saying.

lolwut? december is recent you? we are in february .

and also, if this account was a "mule" account, it defintely wouldnt be deck out like this.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5835988/

it would be like mine forum use only alt

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/6436336/

poster and all those you like this person post, please fail harder at deduction

[chococo]

lolwut? december is recent you? we are in february .

and also, if this account was a "mule" account, it defintely wouldnt be deck out like this.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/5835988/

it would be like mine forum use only alt

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/6436336/

poster and all those you like this person post, please fail harder at deduction

Oh just wanted to point out again, though i'm not claiming that they are indeed the same person
ppl level mules (or alts or whatever you call them) so they get more shots at coil and myth to work around the cap. Many people do so.
and thanks for your link, I just found out they are in the SAME FC.
coincidence eh?