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  1. #81
    Player alhandra's Avatar
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    Alhandra Starbreeze
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
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    so basically because people cant be bothered to actually play their classes like they are supposed to you suggest we just nerf the mechanics so they dont have to deal with it?? i call BS, if people cant learn to play then gtfo. PS is stupid easy, the only part that makes it difficult is dps cant derp their way thru it and healers have to actually pay attention to people health and keep them topped off instead of watching archer re-runs
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  2. #82
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    Elistist call people "terribads" not because they can't complete content but because they refuse to learn their class, etc. Elitist care more about gear and experience. You can't play with them unless your gear is top notch, beyond top notch, you've beat the hardest boss out like 50 times, etc etc. The only people that want old hard content to stay hard after patches are morons ._. But all of that is neither here nor there.

    Please don't nerf this dungeon ;<
    The fact is, people struggle in this dungeon. As a tank, I can get most parties through it just fine. Mainly because I control a lot of what makes this place hard on healers. But as a healer, I have to rely on others too much and Siren is near impossible when the tank won't interrupt or pick up adds and the DD won't switch to adds until you've been stun locked a good 5 or 6 seconds. If you're a healer and haven't had much issues with this place, then you've lucked into some groups that knew what to do. But, spending an hour in this place as a healer and not getting compensated (or getting called a terribad because you can't heal stupid) because the party can't complete it (even after multiple explanations) is a frustration that I no longer want.

    As is, I only do the HL Roulette as my Warrior or Paladin. And this place is the sole reason why.
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  3. #83
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhandra View Post
    so basically because people cant be bothered to actually play their classes like they are supposed to you suggest we just nerf the mechanics so they dont have to deal with it?? i call BS, if people cant learn to play then gtfo. PS is stupid easy, the only part that makes it difficult is dps cant derp their way thru it and healers have to actually pay attention to people health and keep them topped off instead of watching archer re-runs

    You call BS? How is "if people cant learn to play then gtfo" a solution? So, when I have a tank that can't interrupt Lunatic Voice in time, I should just kick him? What about when I have a tank that can't stun Lunatic fast enough and a DPS that won't switch to crawlers fast enough? I can't kick them both. Should I just abandon at that point and waste my time?

    Or, have you figured out a way to magic people into doing what they're supposed to do?
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  4. #84
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    Lumiin's Avatar
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    Secare Miura
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
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    Have you tried explaining? I play heals too and since majority of this game has no clue how to play any job they pick I end up explaining a lot. Even after I explain a lot of times it still doesn't go well but dumbing the game down even more is not helping! I've never played a game with this many terrible players and this game is the easiest mmo I've played and I've played damn near all of em.

    Quote Originally Posted by alhandra View Post
    healers have to actually pay attention to people health and keep them topped off instead of watching archer re-runs
    Lmfao the sad part is...I'm usually alt tabbed while healing because this game is just too easy ._.

    Medica II, Regen ....Oh wait that aoe is coming up better move..... alt tab again.
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  5. #85
    Player Taruranto's Avatar
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    Archs Crysta
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    The dungeon itself isn't hard, but it's "hard" for the average FFXIV player. This is what happens when you create a game where everyone can get geared and reach level 50.
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  6. #86
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    Have you tried explaining?

    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    But, spending an hour in this place as a healer and not getting compensated (or getting called a terribad because you can't heal stupid) because the party can't complete it (even after multiple explanations) is a frustration that I no longer want.


    I do, but much like yourself, they don't tend to read what I've written, apparently.
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  7. #87
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    Lumiin's Avatar
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    Secare Miura
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    I do, but much like yourself, they don't tend to read what I've written, apparently.
    It's called "over looking" because if I didn't read it all, I wouldn't have replied. Buuuttt according to your logic, SE please nerf the forums.
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  8. #88
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    Lord Rulkar
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    I don't think the dungeon is near as hard as it's made out to be. My biggest challenge so far has been getting ppl to not give up and actually stay in the run. I have several wins under my belt but a team of solo artists or afk kiddies can really kill the run. Luckily the few times I do get a group to stay we do quite well and everyone is on focus. This dungeon is like anything else in the game. Just know your job and you will do fine. No need to nerf it but sounds like they gonna do it anyways.
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  9. #89
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    Karnyboy's Avatar
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    Sigmund Felsword
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    Gilgamesh
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    It doesn't need a nerf, it needs a retweaking. I feel if there was enough time to dps adds on siren before worrying about what siren is doing would be fine..the rest is easy.

    The dps priority should be made more obvious on adds and theoretically the encounter then becomes easier.
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  10. #90
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    AmnesiaHaze's Avatar
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    Amnesiahaze Conjurer
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    i learned my lesson on copperbell HM and how it ruined my roulettes , havent and wont unlock the sirius map
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