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  1. #71
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Kraiden Draxenian
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    Quote Originally Posted by SulwynCaliope View Post
    Nerf PS wut? This dungeon is stupid easy. The siren fight isn't all that hard once your tanks start stunning the crap out of lunatic's voice. As a healer, I don't even have to really move to dodge anything. All damage dealt is easily healable. If you're dodging to the left or right to avoid her stupid dash move, don't. As an sch, I just sacred soil for it and heal through the damage because it's not even significant. If people think PS is too hard, I don't want to see them anywhere near any of the coil turns.
    Titan HM is also stupid easy.. if you have a good party that knows what to do. But, have you tried to pug it through DF? How many groups that try it in DF are successful? I'm betting less than 2%. Puging PS can be the same kind of nightmare Titan HM is. Siren requires the tank to silence Lunatic Voice and pick up the privates so they don't rape the healer. It requires the DD to kill the sergeants ASAP and then kill the privates. It requires the healer to top people off with charm and then esuna/leech all debuffs that get through. It also requires everyone to either run to the extreme sides away from her charge or to stack in the middle to avoid her AOE charm.

    If these things are all done, you're right. Siren (and Pharos as she's the main road block) is easy. The problem is, those things rarely happen. You'll have DPS who either don't kill adds at all or they'll kill the crawlers and leave the walkers to eat the healer. Tanks that won't attempt to pick up walkers even if the healer is within range for them to do so. Tanks who can't interrupt Lunatic Voice, Healers who don't top people off and don't use Esuna if Lunatic goes off. And groups that seem to constantly get hit with charge and the AOE debuff (Yeah, both...). These groups are far more common than the perfect group that moves in sync and plays perfectly.

    The only nerfs I really do want to see is with Charge and Lunatic Voice. Give charge a smaller area of effect (so it's easier to react and move away. As is, I rarely have a group that can move out of it in time) and then give Lunatic Voice's cast time a couple extra seconds so tanks will quit letting it go off claiming that "I can't seem to time it".
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  2. #72
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    Synapse's Avatar
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    Why don't they just nerf this game as a whole?

    How do you even nerf an easy game? potato level?
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    Goodbye, Final Fantasy...

  3. #73
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapse View Post
    Why don't they just nerf this game as a whole?

    How do you even nerf an easy game? potato level?

    Or, they could not over react, like you and others are doing and only slightly nerf the content that a lot of people are having issues with? Sound better?
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  4. #74
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    Can we let this thread die so the mods/devs can not see it, cause once they look at it they're gonna go "Hmm well we already nerfed the game for the terribads, I guess we need to nerf it some more"
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    People are wimps.
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  6. #76
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    Can we let this thread die so the mods/devs can not see it, cause once they look at it they're gonna go "Hmm well we already nerfed the game for the terribads, I guess we need to nerf it some more"

    Na, more nerfs please. At least enough to force all of the snotty elitists to move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Na, more nerfs please. At least enough to force all of the snotty elitists to move on.
    I hate when people use that word and have no clue what it means. First off all the real elitist have moved on once they saw how easy and casual friendly this game is. The people that's left that people call "elitist" aren't they are just freaking jerks. Elitists roll in packs. They don't even hang out with non elitist for you guys to even have problems with them. They don't pug or any of that. This game (imo anyway) is full of jerks because this is the first time a lot of people in this game have even SEEN end game in a mmo and are trying to be elitist but have no idea how.
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  8. #78
    Player Versiroth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumiin View Post
    I hate when people use that word and have no clue what it means. First off all the real elitist have moved on once they saw how easy and casual friendly this game is. The people that's left that people call "elitist" aren't they are just freaking jerks. Elitists roll in packs. They don't even hang out with non elitist for you guys to even have problems with them. They don't pug or any of that. This game (imo anyway) is full of jerks because this is the first time a lot of people in this game have even SEEN end game in a mmo and are trying to be elitist but have no idea how.

    Na, Elitists are people that make fun of others by calling them "terribads" because they can't complete some of the games content. Just because they have completed the same content, they think that the people struggling should simply be shiz out of luck. Elitist want hard content to stay hard because they don't think "lesser" gamers deserve the win if they can't beat it as is. Which is stupid.
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    Considering the only tougher dungeons are CT and Coil, I'd prefer if at least the newest of the dungeons were actually difficult. I don't support nerfing this one at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Versiroth View Post
    Na, Elitists are people that make fun of others by calling them "terribads" because they can't complete some of the games content. Just because they have completed the same content, they think that the people struggling should simply be shiz out of luck. Elitist want hard content to stay hard because they don't think "lesser" gamers deserve the win if they can't beat it as is. Which is stupid.
    Elistist call people "terribads" not because they can't complete content but because they refuse to learn their class, etc. Elitist care more about gear and experience. You can't play with them unless your gear is top notch, beyond top notch, you've beat the hardest boss out like 50 times, etc etc. The only people that want old hard content to stay hard after patches are morons ._. But all of that is neither here nor there.

    Please don't nerf this dungeon ;<
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    Last edited by Lumiin; 02-15-2014 at 05:04 AM.

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