At first I really hated my smn which is why I decided to switch to bard. Now I don't mind it as much and both classes are enjoyable. It isnt my group per se, as its just one member who is bringing all this up. We are also a group from the same FC and all enjoy each other. It's mostly trying to figure out what works and what doesn't. My gear is really really bad as a smn, im wearing crafted gear with darklight accessories and a relic wep with an ilvl of 70.